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Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 3, 2015 at 11:44 pm
Hypothetical here. I'm sure some don't want to answer with anything other than "That would never happen," I'll get to that in a moment.
Say that some evidence surfaced that strongly suggested that Jesus never existed. Evidence that was so strong that even many Apologetics accept it. The Historical Jesus didn't exist, and most historians accepted that as a fact.
What would you do?
Would you convert to Judaism?
Would you ignore the evidence? (I'll assume this is your answer if you say "That would never happen")
Would you stop believing in god altogether?
I'm curious as to what people would think they would do. Other Atheists can say what they think people would do. Personally I think a few would convert to Judaism, and many would ignore the evidence. I'm curious about what their logic would be behind their choice if such strong evidence surfaced? I mean many people deny that the world is billions of years old despite all evidence suggesting otherwise.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 3, 2015 at 11:56 pm
They'll shake their heads and say:
"Good try Satan, but the bible cannot be wrong because it is the word of God".
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 12:31 am
Absolutely nothing would change.
They ignore the myriad of evidence as it is now.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:17 am
Quote:Hypothetical here.
No it isn't. And they'd shit their pants.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:19 am
(September 3, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Hypothetical here. I'm sure some don't want to answer with anything other than "That would never happen," I'll get to that in a moment.
Say that some evidence surfaced that strongly suggested that Jesus never existed. Evidence that was so strong that even many Apologetics accept it. The Historical Jesus didn't exist, and most historians accepted that as a fact.
What would you do?
Would you convert to Judaism?
Would you ignore the evidence? (I'll assume this is your answer if you say "That would never happen")
Would you stop believing in god altogether?
I'm curious as to what people would think they would do. Other Atheists can say what they think people would do. Personally I think a few would convert to Judaism, and many would ignore the evidence. I'm curious about what their logic would be behind their choice if such strong evidence surfaced? I mean many people deny that the world is billions of years old despite all evidence suggesting otherwise.
Well let's be real here. Your not gonna shake a non-evidence based belief with evidence.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2015 at 1:27 am by robvalue.)
Given so many Christians refuse to accept scientific facts like evolution, I don't think it would make any difference to those who are already brainwashed. When the belief is not evidence based in the first place, this probably won't do much.
However, to the newer generations, the huge question mark above Jesus' head may well be a factor in seeing through the nonsense. Even as a lifelong atheist, I had always assumed Jesus must have been a real person who got a bit exaggerated. It was only when I got heavily into these topics a few years ago I discovered my confidence was misplaced and it's far less clear cut.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:37 am
Here's what would happen:
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:40 am
Cecelia: Have you heard of an apologist called William Lane Craig? He stated that even if he was taken back in time and was shown Jesus never existed, he would still believe in Christianity. He would assume he was being tricked.
So in other words, when realility contradicts religion, reality must be wrong. I think it's a common mantra. The narrative must be preserved at all costs; the mental effort necessary to fudge facts is less than is required to stop and actually consider you may have been wrong for a very long time.
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:57 am
Why would they renounce their favorite ethnocentric Middle Eastern religious fairy tale when it gives them license to discriminate against people that they don't like?
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RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 4, 2015 at 1:02 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Hypothetical here. I'm sure some don't want to answer with anything other than "That would never happen," I'll get to that in a moment.
Say that some evidence surfaced that strongly suggested that Jesus never existed. Evidence that was so strong that even many Apologetics accept it. The Historical Jesus didn't exist, and most historians accepted that as a fact.
What would you do?
Would you convert to Judaism?
Would you ignore the evidence? (I'll assume this is your answer if you say "That would never happen")
Would you stop believing in god altogether?
I'm curious as to what people would think they would do. Other Atheists can say what they think people would do. Personally I think a few would convert to Judaism, and many would ignore the evidence. I'm curious about what their logic would be behind their choice if such strong evidence surfaced? I mean many people deny that the world is billions of years old despite all evidence suggesting otherwise. I unlike most of you, do not like others doing my thinking for me. I don't take an expert at his word, simply because he is deemed an 'expert.' An 'expert is so because generally speaking, they make their living doing what they do, and can be swayed with the right motivation. I would ask to the 'evidence' and make my own conclusions.
I would also have a lot of questions as in:
What does the evidence of someone not existing look like?
Any testimony can be dismissed, or cancled out by contrary testimony.
The lack of records would only be valid if ALL records of that time were accounted for.
So Im logically at a loss at how one can establish how a specific indivisual in the sea of human History can be proven to never existed. At the very best all that can be said is this person existence has not been confirmed. And if we are talking about Christ, then everyone else of that time frame is also suspect, because their is more data on Him and anyone of that period.
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