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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 21, 2019 at 1:43 am
(February 21, 2019 at 1:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 9:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Selfish desire? I do not believe that the Bible is even a good source of history; how could I possibly accept anything else that it claims based upon "faith"?
That's totally up to you, but as for history it's reliable and the morals of scripture are what would bring peace to this world, but like I said it's between you and God.
GC
Between you and feverish imagination, then.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 21, 2019 at 10:27 am
(February 21, 2019 at 1:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 9:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Selfish desire? I do not believe that the Bible is even a good source of history; how could I possibly accept anything else that it claims based upon "faith"?
That's totally up to you, but as for history it's reliable and the morals of scripture are what would bring peace to this world, but like I said it's between you and God.
GC
GC,
As I have posted before, download the Audible app to your phone and get Ehrman's New Testament course from The Great Courses series. Your first audio book is free, and you can cancel before your first payment.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 21, 2019 at 12:18 pm
(February 19, 2019 at 9:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (February 19, 2019 at 2:54 am)Godscreated Wrote: Yes for the most part, they read scripture the way they see fit and never connect the dots so to speak, they ignore the many connections within scripture that are separated by hundreds and even thousands of years. As far as I see it willful ignorance is the same as consciously dishonest.
GC
And, so, thousands of scholars who live on different continents across space & time are guilty of "willful ignorance"?
I just show 11 out of 11 times where erhman was being willfully dishonest in his top 11 quotes he is known for. what makes you think anyone else would not also have to go to the same lenths erhman has?
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 22, 2019 at 3:15 am
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(February 21, 2019 at 10:27 am)Jehanne Wrote: (February 21, 2019 at 1:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: That's totally up to you, but as for history it's reliable and the morals of scripture are what would bring peace to this world, but like I said it's between you and God.
GC
GC,
As I have posted before, download the Audible app to your phone and get Ehrman's New Testament course from The Great Courses series. Your first audio book is free, and you can cancel before your first payment.
Dawn
Dawn,
I do not need to down load an audible app for Ehrman I have the physical words to read and I have read them carefully. My opinion will not change about the man unless he changes. Why does it seem so important to you that I believe Ehrman tells the truth, what does it matter to your daily life? Let me say this I'm not stupid and I can reason quite well as per my teachers in school. I do not try to delude myself just for the sake of keeping a belief, I see what he says and know that he is wrong. Ask yourself this, who has anything to gain from what Ehrman calls the truth about the Bible, I say only those who do not want to believe that God is real and who He says He is needs what Ehrman sales. There is a difference between what Ehrman does ie. sales and what the Bible does ie. teaches.
GC
(February 21, 2019 at 1:43 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (February 21, 2019 at 1:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: That's totally up to you, but as for history it's reliable and the morals of scripture are what would bring peace to this world, but like I said it's between you and God.
GC
Between you and feverish imagination, then.
Prove me wrong sir bright one.
GC
(February 20, 2019 at 10:37 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to suspect Godscreated might possibly be a troll?
Have you paid any attention as to how long I've been here.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 22, 2019 at 7:26 am
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(February 21, 2019 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: (February 19, 2019 at 9:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, so, thousands of scholars who live on different continents across space & time are guilty of "willful ignorance"?
I just show 11 out of 11 times where erhman was being willfully dishonest in his top 11 quotes he is known for. what makes you think anyone else would not also have to go to the same lenths erhman has?
Example? Please be specific.
(February 22, 2019 at 3:15 am)Godscreated Wrote: (February 21, 2019 at 10:27 am)Jehanne Wrote: GC,
As I have posted before, download the Audible app to your phone and get Ehrman's New Testament course from The Great Courses series. Your first audio book is free, and you can cancel before your first payment.
Dawn
Dawn,
I do not need to down load an audible app for Ehrman I have the physical words to read and I have read them carefully. My opinion will not change about the man unless he changes. Why does it seem so important to you that I believe Ehrman tells the truth, what does it matter to your daily life? Let me say this I'm not stupid and I can reason quite well as per my teachers in school. I do not try to delude myself just for the sake of keeping a belief, I see what he says and know that he is wrong. Ask yourself this, who has anything to gain from what Ehrman calls the truth about the Bible, I say only those who do not want to believe that God is real and who He says He is needs what Ehrman sales. There is a difference between what Ehrman does ie. sales and what the Bible does ie. teaches.
GC
Just listen to Lecture 10, on the "Sources and Problems" with respect to the historical Jesus. In particular, Professor Ehrman discusses the existence of hundreds of pagan sources from the 1st century (letters, poems, etc.), none of which even mention Jesus.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 23, 2019 at 3:02 am
(February 22, 2019 at 7:26 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(February 22, 2019 at 3:15 am)Godscreated Wrote: Dawn,
I do not need to down load an audible app for Ehrman I have the physical words to read and I have read them carefully. My opinion will not change about the man unless he changes. Why does it seem so important to you that I believe Ehrman tells the truth, what does it matter to your daily life? Let me say this I'm not stupid and I can reason quite well as per my teachers in school. I do not try to delude myself just for the sake of keeping a belief, I see what he says and know that he is wrong. Ask yourself this, who has anything to gain from what Ehrman calls the truth about the Bible, I say only those who do not want to believe that God is real and who He says He is needs what Ehrman sales. There is a difference between what Ehrman does ie. sales and what the Bible does ie. teaches.
GC
Just listen to Lecture 10, on the "Sources and Problems" with respect to the historical Jesus. In particular, Professor Ehrman discusses the existence of hundreds of pagan sources from the 1st century (letters, poems, etc.), none of which even mention Jesus.
Would you really expect to here of Jesus in pagan writings, I wouldn't. You think that the Jewish priest of that time penned anything about Jesus, no and why, just like the pagans Jesus was a threat to their way of life.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 23, 2019 at 1:16 pm
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(February 23, 2019 at 3:02 am)Godscreated Wrote: (February 22, 2019 at 7:26 am)Jehanne Wrote:
Just listen to Lecture 10, on the "Sources and Problems" with respect to the historical Jesus. In particular, Professor Ehrman discusses the existence of hundreds of pagan sources from the 1st century (letters, poems, etc.), none of which even mention Jesus.
Would you really expect to here of Jesus in pagan writings, I wouldn't. You think that the Jewish priest of that time penned anything about Jesus, no and why, just like the pagans Jesus was a threat to their way of life.
GC
I am going to start a new thread on this one; look for it in the History subforum.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 25, 2019 at 3:03 am
(February 23, 2019 at 1:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (February 23, 2019 at 3:02 am)Godscreated Wrote: Would you really expect to here of Jesus in pagan writings, I wouldn't. You think that the Jewish priest of that time penned anything about Jesus, no and why, just like the pagans Jesus was a threat to their way of life.
GC
I am going to start a new thread on this one; look for it in the History subforum.
About the way I spell or the subject of Ehrman.  is for my misuse of a word, though it sounded right.
GC
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 25, 2019 at 9:48 am
(February 22, 2019 at 7:26 am)Jehanne Wrote: (February 21, 2019 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: I just show 11 out of 11 times where erhman was being willfully dishonest in his top 11 quotes he is known for. what makes you think anyone else would not also have to go to the same lenths erhman has?
Example? Please be specific.
Seriously?
Post #20 list erhman top 11 quotes he uses to destroy christians.. I broke all 11 down andshowed in each case where heis bending history or is just stroking atheist's egos.
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RE: What do the conservative Christians here think of Professor Bart Ehrman?
February 25, 2019 at 5:53 pm
(February 20, 2019 at 10:37 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to suspect Godscreated might possibly be a troll?
Sadly, he is not.
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