Is God Altruistic? Is God Happy?

[tackattack]

Actually "shanah" means perfect in the vernacular not unchanging.

[onlinebiker]

I dunno if he' s happy - but with all his mandates concerning penis, he might just be gay.




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Not that there' s anything wrong with that...

[Acrobat]

[tackattack]

I was wrong, and I apologize. I must have been dozing. According to Strong's concordance it means repeatable or consistent. And in context as Gae pointed out it doesn't connote that that he is incapable of changing how he feels, simply that He is the same God in the New Testament as all throughout the time span of the old.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

[Acrobat]

I was wrong, and I apologize. I must have been dozing. According to Strong's concordance it means repeatable or consistent. And in context as Gae pointed out it doesn't connote that that he is incapable of changing how he feels, simply that He is the same God in the New Testament as all throughout the time span of the old.

Except of course Malachi can’t be referring to the NT, since he writing prior to it.

Secondly immutability not only stems from
scripture, but also by gods other attributes as well, such as by being eternal and omniscient, the verse if read literally implies gods is effected or changed by the actions of humans, actions he knew would take place before hand. So when did god feel hatred after the actions were performed, or when he knew the actions were going to take place?

We also seem to be at a crossroads, two verses from the same writers which can’t both be taken literally, or the negate what the writers said, you imply one is not literal and I suggest the other.

[The Grand Nudger]

If the ot cant be about the shit in the nt..there goes "prophecy"

-and all for what, because you just can't accept what the word of god says about god? He gets sad, he gets happy. He makes mistakes and regrets. He loves and hates. He's cranky sometimes and breezy others. He has a type of girl and a type of guy.

Hell, the fucker is downright human.

[fredd bear]

[Belacqua]

Secondly immutability not only stems from
scripture, but also by gods other attributes as well, such as by being eternal and omniscient

I think this is why we can address immutability somewhat separate from Bible verses. There is a lot of thinking about God that isn't specifically in the Bible.

In this I think that tackattack was on the right track. "Perfection" in the case of God means, also, immutability. In some cases perfection would be different, as if we were talking about a perfect steak dinner. That would demand change, because it wouldn't be perfect if you couldn't digest it. When people talk about God, though, perfection includes immutability because any change from perfection would mean a change away from perfection. 

the verse if read literally implies gods is effected or changed by the actions of humans

Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but doesn't the verse imply that God ISN'T affected or changed in this way? It says “For I the Lord do not change."

So when did god feel hatred after the actions were performed, or when he knew the actions were going to take place?

This, as usual, is a problem for people who read every verse in its most literal and simplest sense. Sola scriptura fundies and New Atheists. 

For a very long time people have discussed uni-vocal language, equi-vocal language, analogous language, etc. One of the whole reasons for talking about God is as a concept or place-holder for something that is beyond human description and can't easily be talked about in normal language. 

It's common for careless people to call all of this "metaphor," though metaphor is strictly speaking a specific type of trope. A is B, as when Baudelaire says that nature is a temple. That trope isn't relevant for Malachi's verse.

[tackattack]

God is whatever God is and that’s is scripture. I can’t clearly define or put a box around what God is anymore than you. He exists as axiomatic because of the omni attributes. That is why God can do anything He wants to do. Just like you can hypothesize about logical contradiction of how you could act if you didn’t act like yourself, but merely thinking about them is something you do. You can’t be anyone but yourself and God CANT (yes I said can’t) be anything other than God. You make it out like God is a rock outside of our universe with your stance. Scripture is clear that God has emotions. Otherwise you have to rule out His Love. You are conflating Unchanging with unmoved by connotation at the least.