Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]

[tackattack]

I agree deese, although Arya is coming to take care of business to and with the gates open easy for a girl with no name to get in and blow up the dragon fire storehouse

[Homeless Nutter]

So, Daenerys legitimized Gendry as a Baratheon... Because - I guess - it wasn't enough for her, that Jon has a "secret" claim to the Throne as a Targaryen. Now there's also a Baratheon, who may be loyal to her and may not want the crown - but then that's the same as Jon and she's freaking out about his lineage. And Gendri's claim seems pretty strong, since the last legitimate king of Westeros was Robert Baratheon, his father. While Jon's claim relies on a secret marriage ceremony, that changes the history as it's commonly known to most citizens of Westeros, happened long time ago and everyone involved has been dead for ages. Maybe that's a ploy, an effort to turn Jon and Gendri against each other, in case either of them decides to challenge her position on the Iron Throne?...

Another dragon goes down like a b*tch. One would think, that having the ability to fly would give you an advantage, when it comes to spotting an enemy fleet, approaching under full sails. But I guess it was a funny angle, or something...

Misande is gone. What a blow... Why do we care about her at all, again? I mean - except for being a translator in Slaver's Bay and a girlfriend of a eunuch, which was amusing for a bit, sure - what has she contributed to the overall plot? Well, maybe her death will at least contribute to Daenerys turning evil.

[tackattack]

oh definately, she's going full on mad king/queen

[Foxaèr]

Episode Four

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Women crying.
Pointless speech.
Lots of fire; polluting the air.
Three cheers for Lord Gendry.
Time for drink and fornicating.
Arya's not a lady.
Like we didn't see that coming: Jaime and Brienne. Whatever will Cersei think?
Well, it had to happen, I suppose: dead dragon. (Silly Dany preferring to show off instead of being more careful)
The smart thing for Dany to do would be to fly up behind them and roast them, will she?
Washing up on shore, defeated.
At least the game is thriving right up till the end.
Well, look on the bright side, Brienne: you've had sex and you might get a child out of it.
Hand to hand.
Brother to sister.
Typical Cersei.
Is it time for Dany to go mad?

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[Figbash]

Even Westeros runs on Starbucks. 

[Clueless Morgan]

No spoiler tags.



Dany: Things are playing out pretty much how I thought they would from a wide angle: Dany is feeling isolated, everyone is loving the Starks, and they even gave voice to the idea that the one best suited to rule may be the one who doesn't want to.  That statement following on the heals of Sam's question of whether Dany would give up her throne to save her people and the events at the end of the episode lead one to think that she's going to be making bad choices in next week's episode.

Gendry: Lord of Storm's End, huh? Good for him!  Totally the wrong move the propose to Arya, though.  I did expect him to counter her "I'm not a lady" with "You're my lady" but maybe that's too much to ask after you've just had your heart stomped.

Arya: She's headed back south, off on another road trip with the Hound!  Good times Thought her comment that she was never coming back North again ominous, on one hand, but interesting on another: she made the comment "What's west of Westeros?" a while ago so I'm thinking she's off on more adventures after this.

Sansa: Sharing Jon's secret with Tyrion, hmm.  You just knew that she wasn't going to keep it a secret but still.  She's setting some things in motion here.  I also loved her comment to Jaime that she's disappointed that she won't get to see Cersei executed; she got into his head big time!  Also, so many people have marches south to kill Cersei that it's funny that one of the ones with the best thematic/character rationale for killing her is staying behind in the North.

The Hound: He's a grumpy fucker, isn't he?  I've been thinking that he's kind of found his pack in the men of the north and that he was starting to, not soften but maybe just become more accepting and accepted, but it turns out he's a loner.  He's also got unfinished business in the south with his brother.  I liked the scenes he had with both Sansa and Arya.

Brienne: Loved seeing her cut loose a little bit.  It's really odd to see Gwen's big ol' toothy smile on Brienne's face but it was good.  I'm glad that she got what she wanted and had her night(s) with Jaime but it was heart breaking to see him leave her.  That moment was really well acted.

Jaime: Jaime, Jaime, Jaime... He's got a Cersei problem. I get the feeling that he's sort of the flip side of Theon in a way: They both have committed some unredeemable acts but whereas Theon was making active efforts to atone for his past actions and rectify what he could, Jaime more like stumbled into redemption but didn't believe in himself enough to grab hold of it and carry it forward.  Theon saw himself as having done evil and saw that he could do better whereas Jaime sees himself as having done evil and not deserving the good he has gotten since then.

Tyrion: He's back! The old, saucy, playful Tyrion of the past came back to play for a while! Loved seeing him interacting with Jaime and Brienne.  His chumminess with his brother didn't bode well for Dany's feelings of isolation though.  And his later thoughtfulness about what to do about Jon's claim was good to see.  His conversations with Varys were fun to watch.

Varys: Good ol' Varys, defender of the the realm.  I like that even though he's pledged himself to Dany, he's living up to his word to her that he would look her in the eyes and tell her she's making a mistake.  I hope, for the sake of the realm, that she listens to him after the end of the episode.

OMG.  Is Varys going to be the first elected leader of the seven kingdoms???

Rhaegal: That was shocking.  Didn't see that coming at all.

Euron: He's a fucking lunatic. I can't wait for his coming mental breakdown when Jaime turns up and Cersei tells him the baby is Jaime's.

Cersei: On the one hand I didn't expect her to execute Tyrion with the archers but on the other I didn't except his pleas about her baby to have quite that effect on her.  I was also thinking that Jaime would be coming south and eventually claiming his child and parenting his first child, but Cersei isn't showing and there are two episodes left... Me thinks that not likely at this point unless the last episode is like an epilogue and Cersei was kept alive until the birth and then execute.  Boring. Please to do that, GOT!

Missandei: A little melodramatic when Greyworm realizes that she's captured.  Also, her last word doesn't bode well for Dany's mental state or the state of the capital.

Lots and lots going on in this episode!  This is definitely a re-watcher!

I don't think fighting them during the day was an option.  The dead weren't waiting for dawn so there wasn't much choice but to go with their timetable on that.

I agree that the living were fighting by the dead's time table, but the way they executed that battle was poorly thought through.

So, Daenerys legitimized Gendry as a Baratheon... Because - I guess - it wasn't enough for her, that Jon has a "secret" claim to the Throne as a Targaryen. Now there's also a Baratheon, who may be loyal to her and may not want the crown - but then that's the same as Jon and she's freaking out about his lineage. And Gendri's claim seems pretty strong, since the last legitimate king of Westeros was Robert Baratheon, his father. While Jon's claim relies on a secret marriage ceremony, that changes the history as it's commonly known to most citizens of Westeros, happened long time ago and everyone involved has been dead for ages. Maybe that's a ploy, an effort to turn Jon and Gendri against each other, in case either of them decides to challenge her position on the Iron Throne?...

I don't think Dany sees Gendry as a legitimate threat - not legitimate in that he's not Robert Baratheon's child, but legitimate in that Gendry doesn't want to be king and wouldn't pursue it.

Another dragon goes down like a b*tch. One would think, that having the ability to fly would give you an advantage, when it comes to spotting an enemy fleet, approaching under full sails. But I guess it was a funny angle, or something...

I got the feeling that Dany was just distracted watching Rhaegal flying and didn't see the fleet.  They were hidden out of sight of the rest of the navy and Dany was distracted. hrug:

Misande is gone. What a blow... Why do we care about her at all, again? I mean - except for being a translator in Slaver's Bay and a girlfriend of a eunuch, which was amusing for a bit, sure - what has she contributed to the overall plot? Well, maybe her death will at least contribute to Daenerys turning evil.

We care because she had a close relationship with Dany and her death increases Dany's sense of isolation and sours her emotional state even more.  At least, that's the read I got on why we should care about Missandei's death.

Episode Four

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Women crying.
Pointless speech.
Lots of fire; polluting the air.
Three cheers for Lord Gendry.
Time for drink and fornicating.
Arya's not a lady.
Like we didn't see that coming: Jaime and Brienne. Whatever will Cersei think?
Well, it had to happen, I suppose: dead dragon. (Silly Dany preferring to show off instead of being more careful)
The smart thing for Dany to do would be to fly up behind them and roast them, will she?
Washing up on shore, defeated.
At least the game is thriving right up till the end.
Well, look on the bright side, Brienne: you've had sex and you might get a child out of it.
Hand to hand.
Brother to sister.
Typical Cersei.
Is it time for Dany to go mad?

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Excellent recap.

[Foxaèr]

Even Westeros runs on Starbucks. 

I didn't even notice that. Shows how closely I was paying attention. xD

[Figbash]

To be fair, I didn't ether. My friend did, and so I went to check. It's definitely there - around 17 minutes in

[Aegon]

WHY ARE THE CHARACTERS SO STUPID? They have nobody to blame for the dragon's death themselves. Have yall considered scouts, who may have noticed 30 Greyjoy ships before the rest got there? Or maybe taking the dragon directly above them, or behind them, and burn them all before they can make a turn... you know, anything aside from flying directly at them?

Also, am I supposed to believe that Cersei didn't want to see Tyrion killed even though she had just hired a man to travel a thousand miles to kill him AND she believes in a fucking prophecy that foretells TYRION KILLING HER?* Lol. Also, the same woman who burned the Red Keep to kill all of her enemies really wasn't gonna just annihilate Dany and company right there? I don't understand.

When you have dumb writers, you get dumb characters.

*It'll most likely be Jaime, not Tyrion, but she doesn't know that

[Figbash]

I found both last week and this week's episodes frustrating AF. I am the least war-minded person, but damn - even I could think of better ways to approach the battles. Scouts (did they not think they would build larger and more powerful ways to bring down the dragons?! DUH), approach from behind, nighttime attacks (or even cloud cover!), dragons as a surprise tactic, and I agreed 100% that they should have waited between battles to heal and suss out the situation. Frustrating!

Alas, my way would probably make for some boring TV. lol