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Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
#91
RE: Game of Thrones final season
I figured out why Jon sent the Dothraki to the slaughter. His girlfriend's first husband was a Dothraki. I don't think I'd be particularly fond of them either... Tongue




But more seriously - the show creators needed to dispose of some dead weight, quickly and cheaply. The whole thing with the CG fire swords disappearing in the dark - it was actually pretty clever from the film-making standpoint, even if it made Dothraki look useless, and Jon and Daenerys - and whoever else planned this charge - look like dumbasses, which they very well may have been. The barbarian cavalry had to go, especially that - I'm guessing - extras are expensive enough, even if they're not on horseback.

Dothraki were pretty useless - out of their element, with crappy weaponry, that wouldn't work well against anybody, but other half-naked barbarians. Swords are not very good in medieval-style battle, especially against enemy in heavy armor, or the undead (since they're not valerian steel, nor obsidian, and the fire thing was apparently unplanned)... or anybody with a long stick, really. The kind of light cavalry, that was successful in the medieval times - like the Mongols, or the Tatars - usually used bows and arrows as their main weapons. And horses are famously useless, when it comes to defending castle walls. The undead don't seem to be scared of anything, so the psychological aspect of potentially being trampled by horses was probably lost on them.

There really wasn't much they could be used for. However, a much smarter option, from the tactical point of view - in my humble opinion - though much more costly to shoot, would have been to keep the Dothraki in the wings, wait for the undead horde to attack first, and then attack their flanks, while the enemy is stopped by burning pits and spikes, all the while pelting them with burning projectiles and dragon fire. Although - I imagine - ammo and arrows were in fairly short supply, and the dragons were meant to stay back, waiting for the Nightking to show up on his dragon - which plan they didn't stick to anyway, as soon as the barbarians got f*cked.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#92
RE: Game of Thrones final season
(April 30, 2019 at 3:54 am)Kit Wrote: Episode three rated the lowest by viewers, and their main concern:


That's depressing
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#93
RE: Game of Thrones final season
When did Arya get her knife back from Sansa?
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#94
RE: Game of Thrones final season
(April 30, 2019 at 7:43 am)polymath257 Wrote: When did Arya get her knife back from Sansa?

I think she had more than one knife.
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#95
RE: Game of Thrones final season
(April 30, 2019 at 7:43 am)polymath257 Wrote: When did Arya get her knife back from Sansa?

Arya gave Sansa an obsidian dagger, one of Gendry's, presumably. The Valyrian steel dagger she used at the end of the episode was given to Arya by Bran last season, and is the same one - I believe - that was used in assassination attempt on Bran in the first season, and that indirectly started the War of Five Kings.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#96
RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
I added a spoilers tag to the thread. Hope no one minds.
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#97
RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
The fire Mel gave the Dothraki can kill the wights. That’s why she did it, for whoever it was that thought the Dothraki were basically unarmed. The actually stupid thing was how quickly the were defeated, but the other armies did okay.
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#98
RE: Game of Thrones final season
(April 29, 2019 at 4:44 pm)Amarok Wrote:
(April 29, 2019 at 11:08 am)Aegon Wrote: That was ... pretty poorly written lol. Magnificent acting, but... I mean, come on. That was painful to watch.




That being said, the acting was great, and I sincerely felt for all the characters. It was a brutal battle, and I liked it a lot. Yeah, it was a little dark. Just turn up your brightness Tongue
1. Really their plan wasn't perfect but it wasn't completely dumb

2. The NK isn't suppose to have an understable  motivation  that's what makes him scary. As for the prophecy guess what even in fantasy setting legends and prophecy's can be bullshit . It's fans fault for trying to read to much into things . Why should it be nuanced ?  And Arya was always going to be the one to kill the Night King there was nothing anti climatic about it . Why should the NK [/color]be hard to kill nobody else in this show is . Yup winter came and it was defeated and that's an issue why . As for Cersei of course she's going to be the final antagonist she's a bigger monster then the Night King .

1. They sent a calvary of Dothraki into pitch black lol. What did they expect to happen? Also, they admitted they couldn't beat the dead in a straight fight but they took them on in a straight fight anyway. Hundreds of soldiers waiting to die in front of the castle. And they know the NK raises the dead (that's how he builds his army), so what's the point of fighting them initially like that? They know that for every living person who dies, the NK gets another soldier. So all that fighting was entirely pointless, since the amount of undead they "killed" most likely was equivalent to the amount of living men they lost, who then became the undead. Trying to fight them in the beginning like that was ridiculously dumb.

2. Who says that - you? George R. R. Martin made it clear that the Others (White Walkers) in his novels have a more nuanced goal than "end humanity." Why does it have to be nuanced? Because evil zombies who just want to kill for the sake of killing are BORING. It's boring! It's cliche! Game of Thrones built itself on breaking cliches and removing itself from stereotypical tropes like that, that's why we have had such interesting relationships with all of the characters; there isn't supposed to be good guys or bad guys, just characters doing what they think is right, which can be good or bad. There's nothing compelling about an evil guy who's evil because he's evil, and it's uncharacteristic of the series itself. That's why.

It's why I didn't really like any of the Marvel movies until Captain America: Civil War. Because they were boring, generic, invincible superheroes and supervillains beating each other up until the good guy inevitably wins. They were boring because they followed a basic and predictable formula, so I never felt any tension or significant attachment to unrelatable characters. Eventually that switched, and then I liked the newer films. (Endgame was awesome.) Game of Thrones has gone the opposite direction.
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#99
RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Quote:Military Experts Criticize Jon and Daenerys' Plans During Battle of Winterfell
http://epicstream.com/news/NicoParungo/G...UteuZNfII8
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Gah! Sending light cavalry head onto an enemy army. >.<

Cataphracts, I could accept, but light cavalry?
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