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Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Yeah, I mean, I called the Mad Queen thing years ago, but I still hated it.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Hilarious
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Episode Five

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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
(May 12, 2019 at 11:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Well, that pretty much sucked on all levels except for the fireproof horse.

They did it...they sucked us in for all these years and screwed up the last season.

Bastards.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
Cercei needed a shank in her, so disappointed.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
(May 13, 2019 at 9:44 am)tackattack Wrote: Cercei needed a shank in her, so disappointed.

Me too! What the fuck? We've seen so many people go down in horrendous ways and she gets a building falling down cut scene? That was stupid. Show tried to make me feel bad for her and failed. No feels. Maybe at least someone will shank Dany.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
: sigh :

Well, they done fucked it up.

I don't think anyone could say I haven't been hopeful about this season and giving it a chance: My initial reactions to all S8 episodes up until know has been favorable (yes I nitpick after the fact but I still enjoyed the episodes in the moment), but now they're just fucking it all up.

Dany descends into madness and comes up with a justification for herself for taking her revenge on the world.  She's doing it for future generations' security and prosperity, but in the meantime becomes a tyrant herself.  In a way, if you look at the whole series as a Shakespearean tragedy, her final descent makes sense but ugh...

Jon is the rightful king of the 7 kingdoms.  Which means he's going to die now.

I'm glad Arya turned back and fled the city.  Her last interaction with the Hound was sort of sweet and her acknowledging him and all that he's done for her over the years was a nice close to their relationship.  Maybe the only good end to a relationship we'll get on the show. Hilarious

The Hound confronting his brother was... okay.  It was beautifully shot but the fight itself was underwhelming.  I wanted Sandor to grind Gregor's face into hot coals in a "who does it feel, mofo?!?!" kind of way but nope.

Jaime fighting Euron was silly.  But also, Jaime was stabbed pretty good at least twice but runs around the castle with Cersei looking for an escape and looks fine? WTF?  The whole dying-by-cave-in was hugely disappointing especially since Cersei never acknowledged any of her delusions (Re: Tyrion, her role in Tommen's death, etc.).  I at least thought that we'd get the satisfaction of her watching Jaime die right in the front of her and her being completely abandoned but nope.

And what about Bran? Why is he still alive? He had little role in the battle of Winterfell, now he's just left behind while everyone else marches south for the next big battle... I feel like if he's still alive that it's for a reason and there will be another big revelation in the next episode but with the number of dropped threads and loose ends left twisting in the wind in the last three episodes I'm left wondering if they're even going to do anything with Bran in the last episode.

I feel like the lesson of these last few episodes is, at least in part, that GRRM may be making the point that not everyone gets their "storybook ending" be that ending a good one or the satisfying end fans want.  Some bad people never do get their comeuppance and die in thematically or story-telling-wise trivial ways.  And while that's an interesting take on the end of a series (if that's even what GRRM intends) it's a huge disappointment and leaves a bad taste in fans' mouths.  There doesn't have to be a perfect ending to every character or story or whatever, but leaving so many threads untied and having so many characters' deaths be trivial or unsatisfying leaves fans unhappy with a series that so many people have loved.  I don't know how much "blame" to lay at GRRM's feet or David and Dan who may have known the ultimate ending of the show as GRRM intended but were left to make their own way to that point, but they're not doing a good job.

Optimism is fading and disappointment is firmly settling in on me.

(May 7, 2019 at 6:36 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(May 6, 2019 at 12:29 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: We care because she had a close relationship with Dany and her death increases Dany's sense of isolation and sours her emotional state even more.  At least, that's the read I got on why we should care about Missandei's death.

Meh... She lost more than half of her army and two of her dragons, her boyfriend turned out to be an heir to her throne and his people hate her, despite everything she's done and sacrificed to save them. And I'm supposed to believe, that what pushes her over the edge is the death of just some girl, with whom she occasionally talked about their boyfriends' c*cks?

As the culmination of Dany losing her friends and loyal advisers and feeling more and more threatened by the love and admiration that people seem to show Jon and the Starks, yes I can totally see Missandei's death pushing her over the edge.

Missandei's death isn't the singular reason Dany's emotional state is declining, it's the latest in a long list of factors contributing to it.

(May 8, 2019 at 10:50 am)Fierce Wrote:
Quote:Stephen King Shares His Game of Thrones Ending Prediction

http://epicstream.com/news/JakeVyper/Ste...NOTwGsks9E

At this point that's what I'm hoping for.

(May 8, 2019 at 8:44 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Dany seems to be taking the same path as her father...I think that Missandei's (or however you spell that) was one of the straws that will break that camel's back...along with the fact that Jon won't lie for her about who he is.

With Jamie heading back to Cersei I think this may be setting the scene for Arya to kill Cersei while wearing Jamie's face.  Cersei will expect Jamie to be around so seeing 'him' wouldn't be a surprise.

Ug, that would have been so much better.

Quote:I don't think Dany is going to make it through to the end.  Jon may.  

I could totally see Tyrion on the Iron Throne with Sansa as warden of the North.

At this point I'm thinking two scenarios:

1) Dany calls Jon forward and he calls her out for torching the entire city.  She attempts to execute him by dragon fire but he's a Targaryen, too, and survives just like she did, rushes her and kills her.  Somehow the army of the North defeat the remaining Dothraki and Unsullied, everyone proclaims Jon king of the seven kingdoms but, because he doesn't want it, he names Tyrion his Hand and leaves for the North and Tyrion rules in Jon's stead.

2) This whole series has been a gigantic Shakespearean tragedy: Dany executes Jon as a threat to her, Tyrion for betraying her, and rules the 7 kingdoms as a tyrant - exactly what she said through the entire series she wasn't going to be because she's using her rationale of "Our mercy is our strength; mercy for the future generations of Westeros" and she simply becomes delusional in thinking that she is or can bring peace to Westeros.

Scenario 2 would certainly defy fantasy tropes, which is what GRRM does with GOT. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(May 13, 2019 at 9:44 am)tackattack Wrote: Cercei needed a shank in her, so disappointed.

Yeah, that was, I think, the biggest disappointment of the episode.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
I wonder what would happen if John told the dragon to blast Dany.
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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
(May 13, 2019 at 10:35 am)Shell B Wrote:
(May 13, 2019 at 9:44 am)tackattack Wrote: Cercei needed a shank in her, so disappointed.

Me too! What the fuck? We've seen so many people go down in horrendous ways and she gets a building falling down cut scene? That was stupid. Show tried to make me feel bad for her and failed. No feels. Maybe at least someone will shank Dany.

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(May 13, 2019 at 11:10 am)polymath257 Wrote: I wonder what would happen if John told the dragon to blast Dany.

At this point, probably nothing.

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RE: Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]
I'm just so glad that casual viewers have recognized how shitty this show has gotten. I've hated it since Season 5 (yet couldn't look away due to my attachment to the story), so I'm happy everybody knows how badly Benioff and Weiss have butchered this narrative and these characters.

Can't wait for the true, fleshed out version that George RR Martin will (hopefully) get to release. Then mayhaps I'll be proud of my username again. You can tell there is a legitimately great story and satisfying character development hiding under all the bullshit.

On a different note: Daenerys Targaryen is the perfect example of why you don't get a tattoo of a fictional character before their story is finished.
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