Christian utopia?

[Amarok]

this is clinton land supports at the core, yale university students signing a petition to eliminate the 1st amendment. this shows that this next generation is being programmed to give up their rights for "safe spaces."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsKZf4EPlzo

here is a video of ted cruise explaining a purposed amendment that eliminates the first amendment... Your people (the dims) have already tried to pull the amendment! They want "reasonable speech." in this amendment they tried to pass! Again this has already happened!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iygt8hNpy6M

"deep seeded religious view will be changed to conform with the new laws and freedoms afforded by the government.'
She was speaking specifically about abortion and reproductive matters but also moved to include all rights and social liberties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj1T1gP4Q9M

Again bottom line even after trump won you "Dims" tried to move the plan legislation/repeal of the first amendment through the congress despite her not being in office to approve it! This HAPPENED 8 MONTHS AGO! If she was in office the first amendment would be gone by now,plus if the antichrist i mean hillary also preloaded the supreme court with "judges who see the constitution as a living document meant to be changed to fit the times." the first and second amendment would be gone!

That seems like a pretty long-winded way to say that you couldn't source her saying anything tjat, but here's what some people who are not Clinton were saying. I particularly liked the Ted Cruz bit, it's so rare to hear him say something negative about Clinton that just means so much more coming from him. Thanks for the gossip and hearsay.

The president doesn't have the power to change the Constitution, btw.

Fundie Conspiracy theories at their finest

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Are you in denial or delude? She says SHE WILL CHANGE DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS VIEWS TO FIT MODERN FREEDOMS.

What she actually said:

Yes, we’ve nearly closed the global gender gap in primary school, but secondary school remains out of reach for so many girls around the world. Yes, we’ve increased the number of countries prohibiting domestic violence, but still more than half the nations in the world have no such laws on the books, and an estimated one in three women still experience violence. Yes, we’ve cut the mortality rate in half, but far too many women are still denied critical access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth.

All the laws we’ve passed don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice, not just on paper. Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.

As I have said, and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the twenty-first century, and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

Your poking holes in his victim complex

[Mister Agenda]

What she actually said:

Yes, we’ve nearly closed the global gender gap in primary school, but secondary school remains out of reach for so many girls around the world. Yes, we’ve increased the number of countries prohibiting domestic violence, but still more than half the nations in the world have no such laws on the books, and an estimated one in three women still experience violence. Yes, we’ve cut the mortality rate in half, but far too many women are still denied critical access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth.

All the laws we’ve passed don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice, not just on paper. Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.

As I have said, and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the twenty-first century, and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

Ok so we seem to be on the same page of what she said...

However i do not think you understand the ramifications/costs that implementing 'women's rights' will cost every citizen. it start with freedom of religion.

I don't think you understand the difference between stating an opinion and threatening to take away the First Amendment. If she were president (I did not vote for her, btw), she would be president of a country where female genital mutilation and violence against women is already illegal.

[Jackalope]

I'm just going to drop this here and refer those who claim the United States is founded on Christian religion to clause 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797.  Oddly, our own government appears to disagree with you in unequivocal terms.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

Ratified unanimously.

"[...] the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion [...]"

[tackattack]

",as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims,"
great cherry pick though.

I don't believe this nation was a theocracy, but I do believe it was founded on the principles held by people. Those people were religious and non religious, and agreed on a separation of Church and State. Their consciences and collective will were directed by their heavily religiously influenced era and their character, which is the sum of their principles.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

",as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims,"
great cherry pick though.

I don't believe this nation was a theocracy, but I do believe it was founded on the principles held by people. Those people were religious and non religious, and agreed on a separation of Church and State. Their consciences and collective will were directed by their heavily religiously influenced era and their character, which is the sum of their principles.

Very well put.

Boru

[Jackalope]

",as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims,"
great cherry pick though.

I don't believe this nation was a theocracy, but I do believe it was founded on the principles held by people. Those people were religious and non religious, and agreed on a separation of Church and State. Their consciences and collective will were directed by their heavily religiously influenced era and their character, which is the sum of their principles.

You're going to have to explain how muly partial quote doesn't mean precisely what it says. I fail to see how the second clause modifies the first. There is no founding principle that is uniquely Christian I am aware of. Perhaps you'd care to share one?
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I'm well aware of the religious and non religious influences and the latter are precisely those that support my position. My post is directed at those who believe this is a Christian nation - which it is not and never has been. It's not directed at you.

[tackattack]

because there's not a full stop. it's a , followed by a - as a qualifier. The former exactly support the position opposite yours. You can casually throw "uniquely" into the mix but separation of church and state is a Biblical principle (albeit barely practiced because people rarely have distinctions between why they want what it is they want).

And if we throw in the last caveat "-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. "you can see the purpose is peace between an Islmaic country and non-Islamic one by establishing a religious pretext. This also supports that the founding fathers actually had religious opinions but that they weren't a pretext for war against a jihadist, seperatist and theocratic nation.

[Rev. Rye]

Just take, say, Iran and replace all the Islam-specific shit with Christian-specific shit. And, of course, take out the thriving underground of people who justly don't like having to live with the bullshit as seen in movies like Rosewater and, well, most Iranian films that get famous enough to be released in the west (or at least their filmmakers, like Jafar Panahi or Abbas Kiarostami).

[Fake Messiah]

Recently Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accused Republicans of trying to turn U.S. Into “Christian Theocracy” and she also figures that Christian utopia would not be a democracy but monarchy: "dismantle our democracy into a creepy theological order led by a mad king".

Also some other stuff like people going to jail for abortion, racism.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019...cracy.html

[Foxaèr]

The christian utopia is The Handmaid's Tale.