What is next for the United States?

[Amarok]

Or infant mortality were it ranks just behind Lebanon 

Or Child obesity 

Or Child homelessness and poverty

[The Valkyrie]

I find it a lil funny that it seems most people in favor of this bill think abortion laws will work, but better gun control won’t.

I wonder if they plan to ban coat hangers.

There was a piece in the New York Times over ten years ago explaining exactly what things were like Pre-Roe, abortion-wise. This includes not only coat-hangers, but " darning needles, crochet hooks, cut-glass salt shakers, soda bottles, sometimes intact, sometimes with the top broken off."

At one point, he describes something so disturbing I'll leave it under hide:

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The worst case I saw, and one I hope no one else will ever have to face, was that of a nurse who was admitted with what looked like a partly delivered umbilical cord. Yet as soon as we examined her, we realized that what we thought was the cord was in fact part of her intestine, which had been hooked and torn by whatever implement had been used in the abortion. It took six hours of surgery to remove the infected uterus and ovaries and repair the part of the bowel that was still functional.

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If you were brave enough to show that content, remember: this is the world the Pro-Lifers will get if they have their way; a woman whose illegal abortion was so badly botched she got disemboweled.

His conclusion:

It is important to remember that Roe v. Wade did not mean that abortions could be performed. They have always been done, dating from ancient Greek days.

What Roe said was that ending a pregnancy could be carried out by medical personnel, in a medically accepted setting, thus conferring on women, finally, the full rights of first-class citizens — and freeing their doctors to treat them as such.

And as a result, having an abortion is somewhere in the ballpark of ten times less likely to kill a woman than giving birth (which is still pretty negligible), and it's all because we have people who know what they're doing in charge.

The problem is that these individuals don't actually care if a woman dies in a botched abortion. They will shrug and say "serves her right".

These "people" aren't pro-life. They're pro birth. And they don't give a fuck about the baby or the parents once it's been born, so long that it IS born.

[Fireball]

The knitting needle market must be jumping for joy.

Boru

I gave this kudos for the deep satire. This is truly horrific, and I'm sure that is how you meant it. These guys are disgusting.

[GODZILLA]

Alabama and many other states in the south are slowly becoming Christian theocracies

[Silver]

Talibama.

[LadyForCamus]

Murdering babies is sickening and illegal, but fetuses are not babies.

So you are lying to make your argument black and white.  No one can argue with someone who is willing to lie to win.

Why do so many Christians think it's okay to lie to win arguments?

I did not lie.  I don't mind saying the fetus instead of the word baby.  My points stand as I stated though.

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In the great flood every pregnant  female on the planet was destroyed by your god if the Bible is to be believed. Along with their babes at the breast (particularly evil, that lot), every kitten, every puppy, every fledgling, and every good person who had never heard of Yahweh.

You are so fucking sanctimonious.

I am not trying to show a moral superiority.  I believe God sets the moral standards which I try but fail to live by.  Thank God he sent His Son to pay the punishment for our sins.

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You can't argue with forced birth zealots. It has zero to do with babies and 100% to do with an absolute and complete hatred of women. They will deny this until they are blue in the face while claiming "save the babies!", but it's fucking bullshit. They are angry, small-minded people and often warped by religion. It's a lost cause. If they truly, TRULY cared about the lives of children, they would be raising holy hell to stop school shootings, and Sandy Hook should have been the turning point.

Thankfully, many states are putting protections in place if Roe/Wade does fall. My state of Massachusetts is one (the first to do so, actually), and many others are falling suit. What could happen in the more liberal states is health insurance providers could find loopholes to stop covering reproductive services or birth control. Thus abortions and other reproductive care could get very expensive. And of course, this doesn't help the poor women who get pregnant in the states that have outlawed abortion and birth control.

With all of that said, please consider making a donation to NARAL or Planned Parenthood. They really need our help.

https://www.prochoiceamerica.org

https://www.plannedparenthood.org

Oh I hope not.

You were far more tolerable when you stayed in your rabbit hole...

[CDF47]

I did not lie.  I don't mind saying the fetus instead of the word baby.  My points stand as I stated though.

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I am not trying to show a moral superiority.  I believe God sets the moral standards which I try but fail to live by.  Thank God he sent His Son to pay the punishment for our sins.

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Oh I hope not.

You were far more tolerable when you stayed in your rabbit hole...

Some think it is better for me to post outside the DNA thread.  I guess it is just a matter of opinion.

[no one]

Dear CDFSTER,

    What is truly sickness you sanctimonious twatwaffle, is when scum sucking bottom feeders cry how abortion is murder, but always seem to forget that flood they wiped out life on the entire planet because their creator had a temper tantrum!  

You are really worth less than the shit I took at birth!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I find it a lil funny that it seems most people in favor of this bill think abortion laws will work, but better gun control won’t.

I wonder if they plan to ban coat hangers.

No, just high capacity closets.

[Mister Agenda]

Murdering babies in the womb is sickening.

Too bad it isn't murder nor is it a baby and it's better then forced reproduction which is essentially rape .

It's literally 'forced labor'.