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Choosing who you are
#21
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: This is where I am going with this tread....


Are you sure you want this as your final answer?


Smile

You mean equal rights for people?  Yes.

Boru

Equal?

Bwaaaahahahaha......
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#22
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm unsure why this is an issue.  If you're black and want to identify as white, I'm OK with that.  If you're Polynesian and want to go round telling people you're an Inca, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

The number of people re-identifying themselves as regards gender or race is such a tiny percentage of the overall population, I can't see it as a serious issue.  No country is going to go bankrupt safeguarding equal rights for these people (the alternative is almost too horrible to contemplate), nor is it going to infringe on the rights of other people.

Boru

This is where I am going with this tread....


Are you sure you want this as your final answer?


Smile

If you aren’t going to bother responding to the actual evidence I just presented to you on this subject, then I can only assume that you aren’t interested in a serious conversation, and you’ve created this thread to troll.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#23
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You mean equal rights for people?  Yes.

Boru

Equal?

Bwaaaahahahaha......

Can you be a little clearer about what you mean?

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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#24
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Equal?

Bwaaaahahahaha......

Can you be a little clearer about what you mean?

Boru

Can my family own a casino in Michigan?

Uh.... No?

....

Explain " equal".


....

Btw .- I am now self identifying as a Native American - as is the rest of my " tribe".....
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#25
RE: Choosing who you are
So, just here to troll then?

Maybe you missed it:
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#26
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 6:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Gender and biological sex are different.  Emerging scientific evidence strongly suggests that gender-identity originates in the brain, and that the brains of transgendered folks are more like the gender they identify as, rather than the gender their biological sex is commonly associated with. So, your proposition that trans people are picking what gender they want to be based on something arbitrary like favoritism or whim, and therefore people of various races could theoretically do the same thing, is inherently flawed and not supported by evidence.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#27
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: We can choose to either learn, and adjust our positions according to the evidence, or dig our heels in and hit the “repeat” button on the same old, tired arguments, because implicit biases are more comfortable:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...112351.htm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-sci...-30027/amp

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/resea...ould-know/

Now, if you’re interested in discussing the actual science, that would be a conversation worth having.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#28
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Can you be a little clearer about what you mean?

Boru

Can my family own a casino in Michigan?

Uh.... No?

....

Explain " equal".


....

Btw .- I am now self identifying as a Native American - as is the rest of my " tribe".....

I just did a web search.  There are either 23 or 26 (sources differ) tribe-owned casinos in Michigan. Detroit has three corporate-owned casinos.

So yes, your family could own a casino in Michigan.

Anything else?

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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#29
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:40 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 6:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Gender and biological sex are different.  Emerging scientific evidence strongly suggests that gender-identity originates in the brain, and that the brains of transgendered folks are more like the gender they identify as, rather than the gender their biological sex is commonly associated with. So, your proposition that trans people are picking what gender they want to be based on something arbitrary like favoritism or whim, and therefore people of various races could theoretically do the same thing, is inherently flawed and not supported by evidence.

You gone and missed the point.


Yes - a trans person DOES " choose".

They, and they alone get to say who they are.

What you, I and society think - apparently means nothing.

Only the individual decides what the rest of society identifies them as.


If this is true - my ascertation that I am Native American should be equally valid.


Unless you have a logical reason otherwise.

(June 4, 2019 at 7:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 4, 2019 at 7:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Can my family own a casino in Michigan?

Uh.... No?

....

Explain " equal".


....

Btw .- I am now self identifying as a Native American - as is the rest of my " tribe".....

I just did a web search.  There are either 23 or 26 (sources differ) tribe-owned casinos in Michigan. Detroit has three corporate-owned casinos.

So yes, your family could own a casino in Michigan.

Anything else?

Boru

Think so?


Bwahahaha....

....

Michigan DOES allow for someone to change their gender - legally.

However - no so for changing one's race.



Where is the outrage?
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#30
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 4, 2019 at 7:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You gone and missed the point.


Yes - a trans person DOES " choose".

They, and they alone get to say who they are.

What you, I and society think - apparently means nothing.

Only the individual decides what the rest of society identifies them as.


If this is true - my ascertation that I am Native American should be equally valid.


Unless you have a logical reason otherwise.

Soo...you didn’t read any of the three articles I just posted that demonstrates you’re wrong? Can you sum them up? Did you even read the summaries? Do you care if your assumptions are correct or not?

Logic is dependent on facts and evidence. I provided you with a logically sound, evidence-based refutation of your argument. If you refuse to respond to it, I’m going to report you for trolling.

I’ll link to the research for a third time, in case you missed the first two.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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