Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)

[EgoDeath]

Oh my you sound like such a ninny.

And you sound like a schmuck that buys into the idea that sucking on a burning weed that gives you a dose of toxin somehow makes you cool, suave, classy, or sexy.

Have fun with that. Just do it outside. 

The rest of the world decided sometime back that they don't need to share in such ignorance.

The rest of the world? What world do you live in? How old are you? I promise you you're older than me. And I guarantee you my generation uses tobacco in far fewer numbers than yours. So what world is this exactly you're coming from? The baby boomers? Don't make me laugh. I smoke maybe a cigar or two a year, at special events, because I enjoy it. I'll take my chances with cancer. We all die someday. It has nothing to do with being cool or suave, that's a projection that you brought into this conversation; not me.

Don't type too fast now, you might mess up your nails

While we're on the topic of health, what does your diet look like? How much do you weigh? How often do you exercise? I find it funny when the ones who complain about smokers (keep in mind, it's not really me you're annoyed with, it's the cigarette smokers), are the same ones who shovel down a half a pot of coffee in the morning with cream and sugar and stuff a half dozen donuts into their face-hole. Please tell me you don't fit that stereotype.

Please just stop.

[onlinebiker]

And you sound like a schmuck that buys into the idea that sucking on a burning weed that gives you a dose of toxin somehow makes you cool, suave, classy, or sexy.

Have fun with that. Just do it outside. 

The rest of the world decided sometime back that they don't need to share in such ignorance.

The rest of the world? What world do you live in? How old are you? I promise you you're older than me. And I guarantee you my generation uses tobacco in far fewer numbers than yours. So what world is this exactly you're coming from? The baby boomers? Don't make me laugh. I smoke maybe a cigar or two a year, at special events, because I enjoy it. I'll take my chances with cancer. We all die someday. It has nothing to do with being cool or suave, that's a projection that you brought into this conversation; not me.

Don't type too fast now, you might mess up your nails

While we're on the topic of health, what does your diet look like? How much do you weigh? How often do you exercise? I find it funny when the ones who complain about smokers (keep in mind, it's not really me you're annoyed with, it's the cigarette smokers), are the same ones who shovel down a half a pot of coffee in the morning with cream and sugar and stuff a half dozen donuts into their face-hole. Please tell me you don't fit that stereotype.

Please just stop.

Coffee- black - two cups max.


Doughnuts? Once a year. Two before sunrise on opening day of whitetail firearm season.

And cigars are as annoying - if not even more so - than cigarettes..

Edit to add -

When you can find a group of people who developed health problems from second hand doughnuts - you' ll have a reasonable comparison.

[Cod]

I'm always close. But no cigar.

[Anomalocaris]

When was the last time cigarettes exploded in the mouth and shattered the jaw?

How about igniting for no reason in the pants pocket and embarrassed in addition to wounded the wearer by showing him on viral video dancing a jig while trying to pat on the fire the seat of his pants was on?

[EgoDeath]

When was the last time cigarettes exploded in the mouth and shattered the jaw?

How about igniting for no reason in the pants pocket and embarrassed in addition to wounded the wearer by showing him on viral video dancing a jig while trying to pat on the fire the seat of his pants was on?

Yea good thing cigarettes don't cause emphysema and COPD... oh wait...

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The rest of the world? What world do you live in? How old are you? I promise you you're older than me. And I guarantee you my generation uses tobacco in far fewer numbers than yours. So what world is this exactly you're coming from? The baby boomers? Don't make me laugh. I smoke maybe a cigar or two a year, at special events, because I enjoy it. I'll take my chances with cancer. We all die someday. It has nothing to do with being cool or suave, that's a projection that you brought into this conversation; not me.

Don't type too fast now, you might mess up your nails

While we're on the topic of health, what does your diet look like? How much do you weigh? How often do you exercise? I find it funny when the ones who complain about smokers (keep in mind, it's not really me you're annoyed with, it's the cigarette smokers), are the same ones who shovel down a half a pot of coffee in the morning with cream and sugar and stuff a half dozen donuts into their face-hole. Please tell me you don't fit that stereotype.

Please just stop.

Coffee- black - two cups max.


Doughnuts? Once a year. Two before sunrise on opening day of whitetail firearm season.

And cigars are as annoying - if not even more so - than cigarettes..

Edit to add -

When you can find a group of people who developed health problems from second hand doughnuts - you' ll have a reasonable comparison.

Second-hand donuts? So because second-hand weight gain doesn't exist, my comparison is no good? What about second-hand overdose from heroin? Does that render your heroin comparison invalid?

Not sure what put a stick up your ass. Maybe an unruly grandchild of yours who Juuls and never takes their face out of their phone? Whoever your beef is with, it ain't with me, I assure you.

edit: Cigar smokers more annoying than cigarette smokers? Oh please. Just stop.

[Anomalocaris]

When was the last time cigarettes exploded in the mouth and shattered the jaw?

How about igniting for no reason in the pants pocket and embarrassed in addition to wounded the wearer by showing him on viral video dancing a jig while trying to pat on the fire the seat of his pants was on?

Yea good thing cigarettes don't cause emphysema and COPD... oh wait...

At least normal cigarettes give their victims ample time to contemplate their errors and repent their ways, and don't explode and remove 7 teeth and a few pints of blood within a few months:

[EgoDeath]

Yea good thing cigarettes don't cause emphysema and COPD... oh wait...

At least normal cigarettes give their victims ample time to contemplate their errors and repent their ways, and don't explode and remove 7 teeth and a few pints of blood within a few months:

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Okay? And this happens... how often? Cell phones blow up sometimes too. So do car engines. Terrible accidents happen all of the time. Is this your argument for why cigarettes are somehow safer?

Based on currently available evidence, using current generation e-cigarettes is less harmful than smoking cigarettes, but the health effects of long-term use are not known.

source: https://www.cancer.org/healthy/stay-away...ement.html

Now certainly, the jury is still out, but so far as we know, based on the science, vaping IS healthier. That you can quote some anomalies where bad things happen to people using electronic devices (imagine that!) means very little in the overall view of what we can call safe®.

[onlinebiker]

My problem is people who think that stupid is a legitimate choice......

Nope.

It' s just fucking stupid.


And it smells bad.



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[EgoDeath]

My problem is people who think that stupid is a legitimate choice......

Nope.

It' s just fucking stupid.


And it smells bad.



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Yea, imagine different people who value different things choosing to do different things. What a tragedy, ob.

[mordant]

I personally feel that vaping is far safer than smoking, though not necessarily "safe."

I think it's more accurate to say that vaping is less dangerous than smoking, but still harmful. Exactly how harmful is not yet fully determined.