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Apollo 11 documentary....
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RE: Apollo 11 documentary....
(July 16, 2019 at 4:12 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 1:06 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Several tracking stations triangulated the signals from the Moon.

Apollo 11 took place at the height of the cold war, you can bet the Russians tracked it every inch of the way to the Moon, if it had been fake Pravda would have massive headlines screaming "Fake!" About 400,000 engineers and technicians can keep a secret for 50 years?? A lunar orbiter has taken pictures of the landing sites showing the remains of the LEM and tracks from later moon rovers, Retro reflectors on the surface?

And the USSR had plenty of widely separated tracking stations already in use for their own space program.
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(July 16, 2019 at 4:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's odd how quite clever people can be religious, but there are plenty of them. They just don't apply those smarts to their beliefs.

I've never understood how some scientists like Hawking got it but Ben Carson still chalks his skills up to a sky hero. 

I can't do a fraction to save my life. But I do get the simple reality that we know a hell of a lot more now than we did in antiquity. The only thing I can think is that even with the Christian or Jew or Hindu or Buddhist who accepts parts of science, but freak out when you point out the conflicts science has with their respective religions, I still think it it is primal psychological fear of being finite.

I think it boils down to preference. If you find comfort or even a fun excuse to persecute, and that's your thing, you will "believe" no matter how intelligent you are.
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(July 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's odd how quite clever people can be religious, but there are plenty of them. They just don't apply those smarts to their beliefs.

I agree, humans have no problem criticizing and blaspheming the religions of others, but don't aim that same logic at their own claims.
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RE: Apollo 11 documentary....
(July 16, 2019 at 6:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's odd how quite clever people can be religious, but there are plenty of them. They just don't apply those smarts to their beliefs.

I agree, humans have no problem criticizing and blaspheming the religions of others, but don't aim that same logic at their own claims.

Probably because the critiques and blasphemies aren't based in logic.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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Yes, Earth is God's beautiful golf ball. How can't you see that Brian? - Oh yes you explained it.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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It was all faked anyway...
Dying to live, living to die.
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(July 16, 2019 at 11:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It was all faked anyway...

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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