Equal pay for women's soccer or no Fed funding bill

[EgoDeath]

Once again, separate conversation.

[Shell B]

Nope. The OP is about the bill.

[Aegon]

I see. We are talking specifically about the U.S. teams, and what they get paid for representing the U.S. on these teams. In this specific context, it is fair to argue they deserve to be compensated far more. When extending to other pro sports, including the Women's Soccer League (not on the international level), we return to what I was saying.

That's a bit of goalpoast moving on your part, then. The bill is specifically targeted at the USNT and the USWNT, and the differences in their payouts, not all women's sports teams vs. their male counterparts.

Oh. Oops

[EgoDeath]

Nope. The OP is about the bill.

Uh, yea it is. And the idea of whether or not government should fund specific areas of society in the first place is another conversation entirely. Not that hard to grasp.

[Shell B]

Such a cranky little douche.

[EgoDeath]

Not cranky, just pointed out an obvious. You're the one that wanted to argue about it. Note, I never said I wasn't willing to HAVE that conversation, or that I even disagreed with you. In fact, I agree with you entirely.

But, continue with the insults if it satisfies you. You're acting like a child lately. I have to wonder how you get along in the real world when people disagree with you or criticize things you do or say. Wow man.

[Shell B]

Yeah, it's me, but you've been posting walls of angry bullshit in every thread I've seen for like two days. Sorry if your dog died or something, but you could just talk about it.

[SteelCurtain]

I disagree, I do think there is good reason for the federal government to fund sports.

The Olympic games are good for international relations, and it ties generations of people together like few things can. It's good for business too, which the government is able to tax. Never before (as far as I can remember) has a national sports team been a partisan issue, so it's a new thing to view it from this light. National teams that compete in international federations/leagues are a good investment in American youth as well.

[Shell B]

Sure, but we can have those things without government money. They don’t have to be an insane spectacle. It’s definitely not the worst offender, so I won’t die on that hill, though.

[Aegon]

U.S. Soccer Says Women’s Team Has Been Paid More Than Men’s Team

The U.S. Soccer Federation released a letter from its president Monday saying it has paid the U.S. Women’s National Team more than the men’s team in recent years, a move that comes ahead of mediation in the women’s team’s pay-equity lawsuit against its employer.

The pay analysis—which U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro said was conducted by U.S. Soccer staff and reviewed by an accounting firm—likely will add fuel to a complex debate about how the federation has compensated its championship women’s national team. The federation has faced increasing pressure from the public and Congress over the issue, especially since the U.S. women successfully defended their World Cup title earlier this month.

Mr. Cordeiro said the federation’s analysis showed that U.S. Soccer paid female players $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses from 2010-2018, while paying the men $26.4 million during the same period. Women’s team members receive salaries plus bonuses, while the men receive only bonuses, though larger ones, according to the letter.

The compensation structure for the two teams is different because of their respective collective-bargaining agreements and not because of gender, Mr. Cordeiro wrote.

Molly Levinson, a spokeswoman for the players, called the letter “a sad attempt by USSF to quell the overwhelming tide of support the USWNT has received from everyone from fans to sponsors to the United States Congress.”

The federation pays U.S. women’s team members per-game payments for national-team play along with professional-team salaries for playing in the National Women’s Soccer League, as all 23 members of the women’s World Cup team do. The federation doesn’t pay professional salaries for the men.

Ms. Levinson said the federation’s numbers “inappropriately include the NWSL salaries of the players to inflate the women’s players compensation. Any apples to apples comparison shows that the men earn far more than the women.”

When World Cup prize payments from FIFA, the international governing body of soccer, are included, the U.S. men’s players were paid $41 million from 2010 through 2018 and the U.S. women $39.7 million, the letter said. During that span, the men reached the round of 16 in 2010 and 2014 and failed to qualify for the 2018 tournament. The women won the 2015 World Cup and finished second in 2011.

FIFA’s total prize money for the 2018 men’s World Cup was $400 million. For the 2019 Women’s World Cup, it was $30 million.

The federation’s Monday statement came close on the heels of the euphoria generated by the U.S. women’s team’s July 7 victory over the Netherlands for its second consecutive World Cup title and fourth title overall. The victory spurred chants of “equal pay” at the final in Lyon, France, and again at a ticker-tape parade held for the team in New York a few days later.

U.S. Soccer and its women’s team soon will head into mediation over the pay-discrimination suit filed by all 28 members of the U.S. women’s national team player pool. The suit alleges that the federation illegally pays the women less than the men, despite the women’s superior results. The women have won four World Cups; the men haven’t won any.

The federation pays the members of the U.S. women’s team $100,000 base salary and $67,500-$72,500 annually to play in the professional NWSL, a Monday statement said. The U.S. women also can earn bonuses for playing in national-team games. The federation didn’t release information about the men’s bonus structure.

It did release information on gross revenues generated by the women’s and men’s teams. From 2009-2019, the women’s national team brought in an average of $425,446 per game and the men’s team an average of $972,147 per game, according to the letter.

The Wall Street Journal reported last month that the U.S. women’s team generated more total game revenue than the U.S. men’s team in the three years after it won the 2015 World Cup.

The federation said U.S. women’s games had generated a net profit, defined as ticket revenues minus event expenses, in just two of 11 years analyzed: 2016 and 2017. Across those 11 years, women’s games generated a net loss of $27.5 million, Cordeiro’s letter said.

The letter didn’t list the men’s game net result. A spokesman said men’s games from 2009-2019 produced a net loss of $3,130,980.

“Ultimately, the best way to close any gaps between the women’s and men’s game is to do everything we can—as a federation and as fans—to grow women’s soccer, here in the United States and globally,” Cordeiro wrote.