I have said it before. human history.

[Brian37]

Religion, politics, and economic views are the bullshit noises that humans make to excuse being dicks to each other. If all humans need resources, and we do, then stop letting the greedy divide humanity.

[Anomalocaris]

Religion, politics, and economic views are the bullshit noises that humans make to excuse being dicks to each other. If all humans need resources, and we do, then stop letting the greedy divide humanity.

Levitated assertions  followed by non sequitur rallies like no other.

[Brian37]

Religion, politics, and economic views are the bullshit noises that humans make to excuse being dicks to each other. If all humans need resources, and we do, then stop letting the greedy divide humanity.

Levitated assertions  followed by non sequitur rallies like no other.

So we are not the same species? 

Nope sorry, Stalin was successful for a while as much as I hate him. The ancient Romans expanded for a while until they over extended themselves. The ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years, but still fell.

When you can name me any religious, political or economic view that was around when the meteor hit the planet and killed off the dinosaurs I will admit Barney is the one true god.

Until then, I want to tell humans we are all the same species. And greed can and does manipulate any system we dream up.

[Anomalocaris]

Levitated assertions  followed by non sequitur rallies like no other.

So we are not the same species? 

Nope sorry, Stalin was successful for a while as much as I hate him. The ancient Romans expanded for a while until they over extended themselves. The ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years, but still fell.

When you can name me any religious, political or economic view that was around when the meteor hit the planet and killed off the dinosaurs I will admit Barney is the one true god.

Until then, I want to tell humans we are all the same species. And greed can and does manipulate any system we dream up.

Usually people who use red herrings are some what embarrassed and limit the number they throw out to what they imagine would be enough to get them out of a conundrum. 

You seem to think principles flows only out of red herrings and brian’s Position as the supreme prophet of moral truth will not be secure until every thing you say is any discussion is a red herring.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Levitated assertions  followed by non sequitur rallies like no other.

So we are not the same species? 

Nope sorry, Stalin was successful for a while as much as I hate him. The ancient Romans expanded for a while until they over extended themselves. The ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years, but still fell.

When you can name me any religious, political or economic view that was around when the meteor hit the planet and killed off the dinosaurs I will admit Barney is the one true god.

Until then, I want to tell humans we are all the same species. And greed can and does manipulate any system we dream up.

While valid on its own, 'humans are all the same species' is a point that might be better applied to racism than to economics.

Boru

[Anomalocaris]

If one consider the point coldly, the Emotive “we are all the same specie” actually doesn't imply duty or obligation, or any reason to be generally nice or considerate to each other, as Brian evidently think it somehow unanswerable does.   That is except for the case where one is primarily interested in having intercourse with random member of “we” for more than fun.

Evolutionarily, the fiercest and most direct competitor is usually other members of one’s own specie, so the greatest survival advantage is often to be gained by making sure one wins at the expense of other members of one’s own specie.  Remove another from existence so he stops competing with you all together, all the better.    Given that we are relatively free from predation by other species, that state,  however ugly as it sounds, indisputably applies in some degree to our specie now.

That we are all the same species can thus in turn be interpreted to mean we should be particularly aggressive, vigilant, and give no quarters when dealing with most of our fellows, all of whom have similar needs and wants and are thus our most direct evolutionary competitors.   We actually have less cause to be nasty to our fellows had they actually been sufficiently different from us as to constitute another specie, in which case they will likely have sufficiently different needs and wants so as to compete with us less.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"We're all the same species" just IDs the type of asshole we're likely to be.

[Macoleco]

I think humanity will inevitably go extinct.

I believe the species needs smarter individuals to survive.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I think humanity will inevitably go extinct.

I believe the species needs smarter individuals to survive.

We have enough smart ones, we just have too many stupid ones.

[Anomalocaris]

Humans will go extinct simply because the nicer people are nicer to nasty people than nasty people are to nice people.

To survive, we need to ensure nice people are nastier towards nasty people than nasty people are capable of being towards nice people.