Biden isn't going down

[Chad32]

Biden polling ahead is nothing more than a testament to just how truly and abysmally shitty this field of Democratic candidates actually was, and still basically is.

Less a testament to how bad the candidates are, and more a testament to how undemocratic the democratic party is. Bernie, Tulsi, and warren are about the most progressive people in the group. The main reason warren is showing better in polls is because she will compromise with the establishment. Which is not a plus for her, if you want the dem party to move left. She's definitely better than Biden, but less so than the other two.

[ReptilianPeon]

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Hate to say it but if nothing he says or do short of some extreme scandal will have him drop badly in polls, Biden is winning the nomination no matter what non-Biden supporters hope or think.

Oh and a lot of Bernie supporters on the Bernie Reddit are delusional as fuck. People aren't going to eventually magically gravitate to Bernie in large numbers, since he already has high name recognition and is doing relatively poorly in the polls inspire of that. People who are still shopping around looking for the right candidate don't want Bernie.

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Eight years of Donald Trump in the Oval Office it is then! I guess 2020 will be two racists battling each other for control of the White House! So sad...

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Good luck with the fiction of “moderate” electability.

It’s looking like Killary2020..

Some people never learn though. You'd think 2016 would have been a wake-up call. Sheep who always vote for the "lesser of two evils" is what allowed the Democratic Party to become complacent. As I posted previously, there are plenty of reasons not to vote for Joe Biden. I also include this to back up my previous remark about Joe being a racist.

Democracy Now lays out all of the reasons not to support Joe Biden. Did you know that he teamed up with Strom Thurmond on his 1994 crime bill? The same Strom Thurmond that ran for president  in 1948 for the 'States Rights Democratic Party'! Can you believe that? And then he comes out and laments that Donald Trump is a racist and a bigot in his announcement that he is running for president! What a hypocrite! Plus he is a warmonger who supported the Iraq War

[Amarok]

Trump is an orange man and he's rather villainizing himself. Maybe you would have noticed that if you weren't blindly glorifying him.

What I'm saying is that they regularly make disrespectful (and racist) comments about old white men, while their prospective voters obviously don't share the same views.  By the way, the same comments made toward "old black man" would cause rage.

1. your again confusing old white men for old white assholes 

2. And if the old black men acted the way the old white assholes  we criticize act . No it would not .

[Athene]

Biden polling ahead is nothing more than a testament to just how truly and abysmally shitty this field of Democratic candidates actually was, and still basically is.

Less a testament to how bad the candidates are, and more a testament to how undemocratic the democratic party is. Bernie, Tulsi, and warren are about the most progressive people in the group. The main reason warren is showing better in polls is because she will compromise with the establishment. Which is not a plus for her, if you want the dem party to move left. She's definitely better than Biden, but less so than the other two.

Meh....Fuck Bernie. 
DSA supporters are deeply delusional in believing that the majority of the party's interested in swinging that that far left.

With any luck, this will be the last election that the DNC has to entertain his presence.

[Amarok]

So your objection is team up with a racist on a bill almost 20 years ago and supported a war a lot of his own party did .I may not like Joe Biden but those are some really lame reasons

[ReptilianPeon]

So your objection is team up with a racist on a bill almost 20 years ago and supported a war a lot of his own party did .I may not like Joe Biden but those are some really lame reasons

Nice strawman you got there. If one searches "Joe Biden racist gaffes" there is plenty of material and I mean plenty. If people want to support a racist then why not just vote for Donald Trump instead and let the Democrats vote for somebody sensible?

[Chad32]

Less a testament to how bad the candidates are, and more a testament to how undemocratic the democratic party is. Bernie, Tulsi, and warren are about the most progressive people in the group. The main reason warren is showing better in polls is because she will compromise with the establishment. Which is not a plus for her, if you want the dem party to move left. She's definitely better than Biden, but less so than the other two.

Meh....Fuck Bernie. 
DSA supporters are deeply delusional in believing that the majority of the party's interested in swinging that that far left.

With any luck, this will be the last election that the DNC has to entertain his presence.

If you aim for the stars, you might just hit the moon. I don't think the country will run as far left as Bernie or Tulsi want in 4-8 years, but some populism and progressive stuff would be an improvement. One thing I worry about is the market crashing again right after a dem gets into office, and the pubs heap all the blame on them, instead of what Trump did.

[Amarok]

So your objection is team up with a racist on a bill almost 20 years ago and supported a war a lot of his own party did .I may not like Joe Biden but those are some really lame reasons

Nice strawman you got there. If one searches "Joe Biden racist gaffes" there is plenty of material and I mean plenty. If people want to support a racist then why not just vote for Donald Trump instead and let the Democrats vote for somebody sensible?

1. It's not a strawman if I addressed actual reason you say you would not vote for Biden . The fact you have other reason aside the ones I addressed does not make it a strawman 

2. I'm aware of Bidens history

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The comment is usually made concerning things like a congressional committee or maybe an executive board of a large business. Things like that.  The connotation is that they are corrupt, racist, and misogynistic because they are old white men.  The term is used routinely by the left.  Nobody lifts an eyebrow over these racist remarks. 

No you have it backwards they are old corrupt and racist and misogynistic and they tend to be white men . You confusing stating a fact of socio economics and social dynamics with racism .

Say the congressional black caucus meets and comes out with a statement.  What if someone disagreed with their statement and referred to them as a group of old black men ad women.  Would anyone make a comment about this being a racist slur?  

If all things being equal yes they would . Too bad all things are not equal 

This is the mentality of most progressive Democrat candidates, yet the polls have two old white men in the lead.  I wonder if these candidates are out of touch with the everyday pool of Democrat voters.

Too bad you are getting your old white men confused

[ReptilianPeon]

If people are proud to support this guy then fine. Sadly, most people don't know his history. That's why he's still doing okay in the polls. I'm suggesting that minorities shouldn't vote for somebody who wouldn't hesitate to shut the door in their face.

Joe Biden could be "civil" with segregationists "because he shared their views"

[Anomalocaris]

If people are proud to support this guy then fine. Sadly, most people don't know his history. That's why he's still doing okay in the polls. I'm suggesting that minorities shouldn't vote for somebody who wouldn't hesitate to shut the door in their face.

Joe Biden could be "civil" with segregationists "because he shared their views"

Right, minorities would do better handing a second term to trump.