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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 8:40 am
(August 6, 2019 at 7:36 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Nutters...
Isn' t it great when you're in the "right" poliical group - and you can villify and denegrate the " wrong" group and label them as subhuman vermin?
(Right and wrong being soley up to the individual)
I guess that must be how the white supremisists feel.
"Some people" wouldn't dream of vilifying Nazis, of course.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 8:57 am
(August 6, 2019 at 8:40 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 7:36 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Nutters...
Isn' t it great when you're in the "right" poliical group - and you can villify and denegrate the " wrong" group and label them as subhuman vermin?
(Right and wrong being soley up to the individual)
I guess that must be how the white supremisists feel.
"Some people" wouldn't dream of vilifying Nazis, of course.
And my Grandfather Heinrich would. He hated Henry Ford too......
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 11:50 am
I didn't know you were related to the Himmlers.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 12:57 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 8:22 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 8:06 am)Brian37 Wrote: 100 people on average even outside mass shootings are dying by firearm per day! 36,000 on average per year. I don't care about the majority, ENOUGH people are, and even with those that do die every day, most firearm fatalities start with a legally purchased firearm. But it is also true that it does not help that the POTUS is pandering to bigots. Bad combo to have a climate of easy access to firearms, and sell hate as well.
Our laws have to change, PERIOD! It isn't enough to say "Don't blame me, I don't do that." Nobody is talking about you, I am talking about our laws and one industry's CEOs whom are obstructing any meaningful change, regardless of motive.
Half of those 36000 are suicides.
" well if they didn't have access to a gun they wouldn't kill themselves"
Bullshit.
People use a gun when they are fully committed to whacking themselves. It' s not a halfassed attempt.
Get rid of guns and the number of people stepping off high buildings will go up just as fast as the people go down...
Or you could figure on using other means like drug overdoses, which will be less likely to work. Anyone who's done the slightest bit of research into suicide knows that, while men are three times more likely to actually kill themselves than women, women are three times more likely than men to try. And part of why this is is because men are more likely to shoot themselves, because they're more likely to actually have guns to shoot themselves with.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 1:25 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:57 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 8:22 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Half of those 36000 are suicides.
" well if they didn't have access to a gun they wouldn't kill themselves"
Bullshit.
People use a gun when they are fully committed to whacking themselves. It' s not a halfassed attempt.
Get rid of guns and the number of people stepping off high buildings will go up just as fast as the people go down...
Or you could figure on using other means like drug overdoses, which will be less likely to work. Anyone who's done the slightest bit of research into suicide knows that, while men are three times more likely to actually kill themselves than women, women are three times more likely than men to try. And part of why this is is because men are more likely to shoot themselves, because they're more likely to actually have guns to shoot themselves with.
You can' t drive to work if you don't have a car.
If a guy is planning on offing himself and he doesn't have a gun - he will go get one - or step off the high building.
Simply having a gun isn't an indicator of suicidal intent.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 1:54 pm
Having a gun is a great way to increase the chances you'll get shot.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 3:35 pm
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Quote:You can' t drive to work if you don't have a car.
Yup and you can't shoot up a colleague if you don't have a gun
Quote:If a guy is planning on offing himself and he doesn't have a gun - he will go get one - or step off the high building.
Nah jumpers and gunners are two different kinds
Quote:Simply having a gun isn't an indicator of suicidal intent.
No but it increases the chance especially if someone has no prior history with guns
Quote:Isn' t it great when you're in the "right" poliical group - and you can villify and denegrate the " wrong" group and label them as subhuman vermin?
Lol it must be great pretending your a victim
Quote:(Right and wrong being soley up to the individual)
Victimhood
Quote:I guess that must be how the white supremisists feel.
Nah just republicans
Quote:People use a gun when they are fully committed to whacking themselves. It' s not a halfassed attempt.
Actually nope plenty of people have ended up just shooting themselves in the foot
Quote:Get rid of guns and the number of people stepping off high buildings will go up just as fast as the people go down...
Nope because they aren't the same kind
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 3:44 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 8:40 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 7:36 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Nutters...
Isn' t it great when you're in the "right" poliical group - and you can villify and denegrate the " wrong" group and label them as subhuman vermin?
(Right and wrong being soley up to the individual)
I guess that must be how the white supremisists feel.
"Some people" wouldn't dream of vilifying Nazis, of course.
Hitler was soooo misunderstood. The Nazis only murdered 6 million Jews. You are right Gawdzilla, we shouldn't be so quick to vilify what Trump called "fine people".
We must also not deny these "fine people" access to firearms. I mean, because all the Nazis were doing when they took power was exercise their freedom.
Huge difference between calling a spade a spade, and vilifying innocent people. Too many on the right still do not get it, and that ignorance is dangerous.
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 5:33 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 1:25 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:57 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Or you could figure on using other means like drug overdoses, which will be less likely to work. Anyone who's done the slightest bit of research into suicide knows that, while men are three times more likely to actually kill themselves than women, women are three times more likely than men to try. And part of why this is is because men are more likely to shoot themselves, because they're more likely to actually have guns to shoot themselves with.
You can' t drive to work if you don't have a car.
If a guy is planning on offing himself and he doesn't have a gun - he will go get one - or step off the high building.
Simply having a gun isn't an indicator of suicidal intent.
Are you even trying to engage with what I wrote? I never said that owning a gun was an indicator of suicidal intent, I said that men tend to be more likely than women to own guns, so if/when they do have suicidal thoughts, they’re more likely to have a gun handy to ensure that they kill themselves.
Seriously, despite the far right pushing the NPC meme, it looks like you’re the one who’s acting like they’re just a bot with an AI made up of right-wing talking points, because I’m fairly certain an actual human being wouldn’t read “men are more likely to complete suicide than women because (at least in part) they’re more likely to own guns” and think I wrote “owning a gun is an indicator of suicidal thoughts.”
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RE: Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio
August 6, 2019 at 6:05 pm
We need to put the date in the subject line for these threads.
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