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Hong Kong.........
#1
Hong Kong.........
I do not want to hear jack shit from Republicans or Libertarians, if they are going to rightfully say they hate Communism, then run like cowards saying it is an "internal affair". The truth of our western billionaires, not all, but far too many, look at China's authoritarian capitalism, where their workers have no rights, and hyper nationalism and blind loyalty are expected from their Communist party.

Sorry it may bother any republican or libertarian poster here. BUT FUCK YOU, I am a liberal, not a Stalin Soviet Socialist, not a Hitler Fascist. I stand with Hong Kong's protesters. Morals extend beyond profits.
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#2
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I don't think it will bother anyone here to say that you stand with Hong Kong.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#3
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Are the Republicans okay with the government retaliating with force? I'm pretty sure they condemn it too. The problem is, what are we supposed to do? Go to war with China? With Trump at the helm? No fucking thanks.
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(August 13, 2019 at 12:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I do not want to hear jack shit from Republicans or Libertarians, if they are going to rightfully say they hate Communism, then run like cowards saying it is an "internal affair". The truth of our western billionaires, not all, but far too many, look at China's authoritarian capitalism, where their workers have no rights, and hyper nationalism and blind loyalty are expected from their Communist party.

Sorry it may bother any republican or libertarian poster here. BUT FUCK YOU, I am a liberal, not a Stalin Soviet Socialist, not a Hitler Fascist. I stand with Hong Kong's protesters. Morals extend beyond profits.

I'm happy to know where you stand on this issue.  I think the protestors are in the right regarding the extradition laws.  But they should understand - as I'm sure you do - that Hong Kong has been a part of China since 1997.  It is a semi-autonomous region, somewhat analogous to Puerto Rico's relationship with the US.  How do you imagine the US would react if protestors in PR were to shut down the Port of San Juan, or the airport?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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Meet the 37th Brian.

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(August 13, 2019 at 12:32 pm)Shell B Wrote: Are the Republicans okay with the government retaliating with force? I'm pretty sure they condemn it too. The problem is, what are we supposed to do? Go to war with China? With Trump at the helm? No fucking thanks.

"Capitalism" knows no boarders. This is not the same GOP/Democrat unity we had in WW2, or post WW2.

I don't want to go to war with China either. But that fucking party has shit on liberals as if we were Stalin and Castro. Considering that they are in the pocket of billionaires, and those billionaires make all their crap in China, I find it a bit hypocritical they try to paint liberals as the bad guys.

The world's billionaires, friend and foe alike go where they can use the cheapest labor and cheapest material. 

If the GOP is going to rightfully condemn oppression then I don't want them vilifying me because I am also on the side of Hong Kong's protesters, and I also do not want war either. But if you listen to the GOP I am out to end the private sector, and I am out to end political pluralism, which I am NOT!

The idea of the west, isn't to concede morals to oppressive states.

If the GOP is for an open and free Hong Kong, then don't shit on me when I agree. Don't vilify me because I value worker stability. Don't vilify me because I want their population to have a a say in how they are ruled and value oversight.

(August 13, 2019 at 12:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 13, 2019 at 12:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I do not want to hear jack shit from Republicans or Libertarians, if they are going to rightfully say they hate Communism, then run like cowards saying it is an "internal affair". The truth of our western billionaires, not all, but far too many, look at China's authoritarian capitalism, where their workers have no rights, and hyper nationalism and blind loyalty are expected from their Communist party.

Sorry it may bother any republican or libertarian poster here. BUT FUCK YOU, I am a liberal, not a Stalin Soviet Socialist, not a Hitler Fascist. I stand with Hong Kong's protesters. Morals extend beyond profits.

I'm happy to know where you stand on this issue.  I think the protestors are in the right regarding the extradition laws.  But they should understand - as I'm sure you do - that Hong Kong has been a part of China since 1997.  It is a semi-autonomous region, somewhat analogous to Puerto Rico's relationship with the US.  How do you imagine the US would react if protestors in PR were to shut down the Port of San Juan, or the airport?

Boru

Again, I do not want a war with China either. But lets not fool ourselves here. All this bullshit talk about the GOP supporting a free Hong Kong is just that, knowing that all the crap we buy here at Walmart and dollar stores, and our laptops and cell phones are made there. Their billionaires and our billionaires dont give a fuck.

Right now there is a western billionaire and a Chinese billionaire in board rooms or on cell phones talking to each other saying "All these uppity  humans are fucking up  our greed. "
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You realize that the current unpleasantness in Hong Kong has nothing to do with laptops or cellphones or trade of any sort, right?


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  • Right now there is a western billionaire and a Chinese billionaire in board rooms or on cell phones talking to each other saying "All these uppity  humans are fucking up  our greed. "


If you give me their names, I'll see what I can do for you.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(August 13, 2019 at 1:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You realize that the current unpleasantness in Hong Kong has nothing to do with laptops or cellphones or trade of any sort, right?

Boru

The fuck it doesn't. Who rules over Hong Kong right now? CHINA.

China does not want Hong Kong's western influence infecting mainland China. And at the same time, who the fuck just screwed over America with the trade war? 

The orange turd just backed off more Tariffs and delayed them. If the fucker was really about principle he wouldn't have done that. 

For our billionaires and China's billionaires, this has always been about money, not morals.
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(August 13, 2019 at 1:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 13, 2019 at 1:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You realize that the current unpleasantness in Hong Kong has nothing to do with laptops or cellphones or trade of any sort, right?

Boru

The fuck it doesn't. Who rules over Hong Kong right now? CHINA.

China does not want Hong Kong's western influence infecting mainland China. And at the same time, who the fuck just screwed over America with the trade war? 

The orange turd just backed off more Tariffs and delayed them. If the fucker was really about principle he wouldn't have done that. 

For our billionaires and China's billionaires, this has always been about money, not morals.

No, the protests are about a change in the extraditions laws, not trade.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(August 13, 2019 at 2:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 13, 2019 at 1:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The fuck it doesn't. Who rules over Hong Kong right now? CHINA.

China does not want Hong Kong's western influence infecting mainland China. And at the same time, who the fuck just screwed over America with the trade war? 

The orange turd just backed off more Tariffs and delayed them. If the fucker was really about principle he wouldn't have done that. 

For our billionaires and China's billionaires, this has always been about money, not morals.

No, the protests are about a change in the extraditions laws, not trade.

Boru

DUH!

Still connected though. Government of all countries make laws. China doesn't want Hong Kong to affect anything, because if they do, it can be a domino.

The global market, both friend and foe alike are used like poker chips used  to influence others.
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