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RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 12, 2024 at 12:34 am
To go way back to earlier point in some cultures slaves did have rights and other serfs essentially were slaves by another name the distinction was not straightforward
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RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 12, 2024 at 11:51 am
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RE: "Laughing At Religion" Meme Thread
November 12, 2024 at 12:43 pm
(November 11, 2024 at 4:50 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Because you can't do anything in the name of atheism. There is no jump from "I don't accept the claim of the existence of god " to " Thus I should make a Sandwich in the same vein there is no jump from "I don't accept the claim of the existence of god " To " Thus I should kill all religious people and burn churches down . The link doesn't exist.
And to be fair, you can't do anything in the name of theism either. Believing some sort of God or god is real doesn't link to any actions either. It has to be a specific deity who's desires you think you know and also think you should have to obey before you derive actions from a specific flavor of theism. A theistic religion like Christianity or Islam or Hinduism; or especially a particular sect of a religion can get you there; but not, for example, deism or 'somethingism'.
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November 12, 2024 at 12:48 pm
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The beginning of your post is at odds with it's end. OFC you can do things in the name of theism..must, in fact, do things. That deism can be normatively neutral does not have an effect on theism which cannot be, and is by definition more than just the belief in god - but a belief in a particular kind of god which will by it's mere invocation engender normative content.
Theistic gods are personal and intervening. The gods personality and the content of it's intervention are the religious overlay to the superstitious belief.
An interesting note here is that theism likely contains the seeds of it's own demise (in any given form). Once we attempt to circumscribe all normative content or situations in the univserse through the lens of personal intervention we will inevitably fail to capture the fullness and range of normative consequences in said universe. This instantiates itself in the world through endless revision and with respect to the pile of gods and what normative statements they represent in the dustbin of history. Our own perceptual and normative failures are baked in, in addition to the belief set failing to accurately describe the world we are so often wrong in - the whole enterprise being devoted to the shape of being right.
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November 12, 2024 at 12:50 pm
Can you give an example of something you must do in the name of theism that does not resort to the commands of a specific religion?
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November 12, 2024 at 2:04 pm
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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^^^ I see two.
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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