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Amber Guyger Convicted
#11
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
1. I am glad that, in Texas, a white woman is doing time for killing a black man.

2. However, I think the death resulted from a single misjudgment, and in my opinion, not the most egregious misjudgment resulting in death for which other people have gotten off largely essentially scot free. So I don't think she deserved 10 years.
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#12
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
(October 3, 2019 at 4:23 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: So you are saying despite the fact you think her crime was much less serious, she should be punished much more seriously for it?




Well, that's not exactly how it works. Manslaughter isn't necessarily a "less serious" charge, it's just a different way to define someone being killed.

Manslaughter is also a first degree felony in many states, if not all of them. Also, you can get life in prison for manslaughter.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#13
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
The family and judge hugging this fucking killer after sentencing...utter fucking lunacy.
I just about lost my lunch.

Crazy world.
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#14
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
(October 3, 2019 at 7:14 pm)Athene Wrote: The family and judge hugging this fucking killer after sentencing...utter fucking lunacy.
I just about lost my lunch.

Crazy world.

Relax.

The family can grieve in whatever way they find appropriate. None of your business, or mine, or anyone else's.

The judge, however, is completely out of line, in my opinion. Her role is not to console the accused, regardless of whether or not the accused is a LEO. That, I find completely ridiculous and evidence of a biased sentencing.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#15
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
Let's have some perspective here, she didn't go gunning for people.  She thought it was her home and was surprised by someone who invaded it.

She didn't exactly do as those stand-your-ground people did who coldly took advantage of stand-your-ground laws to shoot people when they were not surprised and could have avoided the confrontation.

Calling her a killer is a little over the top.
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#16
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
Or so she claims.

Even still, is this a license to kill? Ten years is a light sentence for murder, or even voluntary manslaughter, in my opinion.

And no, she killed someone. She pointed a gun at a man and shot him with the intention of killing him. She's by definition a killer.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#17
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
(October 3, 2019 at 7:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Or so she claims.

Even still, is this a license to kill? Ten years is a light sentence for murder, or even voluntary manslaughter, in my opinion.

And no, she killed someone. She pointed a gun at a man and shot him with the intention of killing him. She's by definition a killer.

Any time when the killing is wrongful, there is no license to kill.  

But there are different degree of egregiousness to wrongful killing.   I don't think her case is one of the more egregious.    If she opened the door, went in, surprised, came back out, and then decided to draw her gun, go back in and shoot the alleged intruder, then I would agree she is a killer and deserved 20 years.

But that's not what happened.

She probably was high on adrenaline, probably did feel threatened, and shot Bo in an exhibition of very poor judgement.

(October 3, 2019 at 7:19 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(October 3, 2019 at 7:14 pm)Athene Wrote: The family and judge hugging this fucking killer after sentencing...utter fucking lunacy.
I just about lost my lunch.

Crazy world.

Relax.

The family can grieve in whatever way they find appropriate. None of your business, or mine, or anyone else's.

The judge, however, is completely out of line, in my opinion. Her role is not to console the accused, regardless of whether or not the accused is a LEO. That, I find completely ridiculous and evidence of a biased sentencing.


I agree the judge lost all professional detachment and acted in a way inconsistent with the requirements of her job and profession.

I think the brother of the victim who hugged the convicted acted in a admirably nobly and humane way that is beyond any reproach.    I do not even begrudge his ad hoc proselytizing.
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#18
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
I live in the Dallas Metroplex. This story has been on the radio constantly so I hear parts of it on my drive to and from work. I have to say I am glad I was not on the jury for that case.

A couple days ago the radio station I listen to was playing Ms. Guyger's testimony and cross examination. It raised more questions for me than it provided answers. She said she was exhausted after a 13-1/2 hour shift. She was apparently so exhausted that she didn't notice she was on the wrong floor of the parking ramp - though she was surprised to get such a good parking spot - she didn't notice that the apartment she was entering had a red welcome mat at the door - obviously not hers. The odor of pot was wafting through the slightly opened door. She walked in and didn't notice that this apartment did not have her stuff in it. There was a black man sitting on the couch eating ice cream and she felt threatened so she shot him though she had other non-lethal items on her belt. Though trained to pay attention to detail she was so exhausted that she didn't notice any of the things that should have let her know that something wasn't right. She was not being attacked by an ice cream wielding psycho lurking in her apartment. This is someone trained to notice details and she missed some big ones.

She also stated that she was going home after this long, exhausting shift to change clothes and then drive into downtown Dallas to a gym to work out.

What?

I haven't heard anything that makes me think she set out to murder the victim, as in premeditated murder. However, she used deadly force when it wasn't necessary and a man is dead. There has to be some accountability.

Of course, word around here is the possibility of a coverup by the police so this story is far from over.
  
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#19
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
(October 3, 2019 at 7:19 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(October 3, 2019 at 7:14 pm)Athene Wrote: The family and judge hugging this fucking killer after sentencing...utter fucking lunacy.
I just about lost my lunch.

Crazy world.

Relax.

The family can grieve in whatever way they find appropriate. None of your business, or mine, or anyone else's.

The judge, however, is completely out of line, in my opinion. Her role is not to console the accused, regardless of whether or not the accused is a LEO. That, I find completely ridiculous and evidence of a biased sentencing.

Don't need to relax, cuz I'm not riled up.

And of course, they sure can grieve the way they feel appropriate--And I am free to comment as I see fit. 
This a discussion board, dude. I am here to discuss. Wink

And the way I see it, the defendant's brother begging to hug that woman and yammering on about Jesus was a sad, sad testament to just how damaged some folks's brains are due to indoctrination/Christianity. There are too many Black people especially who have been brainwashed into be WAY too forgiving of this sort of fuckery. Frankly, I'm sick of the entire narrative--The expectation that we should be the better people and turn the other cheek and forgive motherfuckers who see fit to mow us down like cattle. 

The narrative warrants pushback IMO, and I don't mind saying so.

And fuck that judge, especially. Handing that twat a Bible as she brush away the defendant's tears like some goddamned mammy.
I mean, what in the fucking Oprah Winfrey was that all about?

Inappropriate a hell.

What a shit show.
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#20
RE: Amber Guyger Convicted
I for one think that a cop, was fired, indicted, convicted, and sentenced at all speaks volumes about the egregiousness of the alleged crime.

If it's true she intended to kill him, that's all that's required to sustain a verdict on murder in the 2nd. She went against her training to do so. That IMO speaks volumes about her intent, or perhaps her training.

I'm not shedding a tear. The victim lost his life and his loved ones lost him forever. She'll be out in 5 years probably, where she'll be free to shed some more woe-is-me crocodile tears.

Hahaha, fuck you.
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