the coming socialist revolution

[Anomalocaris]

Actually, storming a castle is pretty expensive.  Better to just starve them out.

Boru

I know.

The costs of hiring weather wizards these days is ridiculous!

The key is to make sure they completely spend themselves storming the castle.   This way no one is left to collect the pay.

[Cecelia]

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Radical Left...

Imagine this scenario: imagine that you were a bloke that came with Columbus on the first day that he came in America in 1492 and you stayed in America (let's imagine Columbus came to N.A. continent first), and you immediately started working so much that you earned $5000 a day - sounds crazy? Who makes $5000 a day?

And imagine that you are still alive to this day and making that $5000 every day since. You still would not be a billionaire. In fact you would have earned less than Jeff Bezos makes in one week!

So how radical would left have to be to change something like that? Dream on.

Nobody works for a billion dollars.

For that matter, if you were born on the same day as Plato, and saved $1000 every day for your entire life, you still wouldn't be a billionaire.

And if George Washington had saved $1,000,000 every day of his life and was still alive today, he wouldn't be worth as much as Jeff Bezos.  (Though he would be close)

[Anomalocaris]

 In addition, the current global economic crisis may awaken the left, not the center left, but the radical one.

What do you think?

What do I think? I think you're paranoid. Do you watch Fox News much?

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Radical Left...

Imagine this scenario: imagine that you were a bloke that came with Columbus on the first day that he came in America in 1492 and you stayed in America (let's imagine Columbus came to N.A. continent first), and you immediately started working so much that you earned $5000 a day - sounds crazy? Who makes $5000 a day?

And imagine that you are still alive to this day and making that $5000 every day since. You still would not be a billionaire. In fact you would have earned less than Jeff Bezos makes in one week!

So how radical would left have to be to change something like that? Dream on.

Nobody works for a billion dollars.

That depends on a very limited definition of “works”.

The idea of work should be how much more enriched the society is because you did what you’ve done.   If you shoved shit for 3 million years, it is arguable the world overall would still be less enriched than if you set up amazon and ran it for 20 years.

[EgoDeath]

I spent my years in high school reading The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and The Motorcycle Diaries and Guerilla Warfare by Ernesto "Che" Guevara, as well as The Art of War  by Sun Tzu... proudly wearing my Che t-shirt, to the horror of my school's history teachers, who loved to question me about Socialism, Communism, and who Che Guevara was and why I considered him someone to be idolized. I suppose I figured myself some sort of revolutionary or free-thinker, while I was really just an angsty teen with some edgy political ideas.

I later realized that politics was not a theme that I wanted to play a major part in my adult life. It's a mostly futile effort, after all, and brings me no real sense of joy.

If and/or when a revolution comes, I'll play whatever the winning side is, ensuring the survival of me and mine.

In a perfect world, we would live in a sort of Libertarian Socialist (often equated with Anarchist) society, or rather set of societies, that were self-sufficient, small and lacking many of the technologies that we love so dearly today. But, that world will likely never exist, so I'll simply go on about my way, enjoying the things that I enjoy and not worrying about what's here after I'm gone.

[Fake Messiah]

If you shoved shit for 3 million years, it is arguable the world overall would still be less enriched than if you set up amazon and ran it for 20 years.

Yeah, like I said no leftie is going to change that. You will always have loser jobs like shoveling shit, teacher, homeless veteran, non expensive restaurant workers... who need more than one job to survive. I mean this is the message of the current society to a homeless veteran: "Hey man, it's your loss that you were fighting for the country when you could have been making billions Bezos or president of Exxon. It's your choice."

In a perfect world, we would live in a sort of Libertarian Socialist (often equated with Anarchist) society, or rather set of societies, that were self-sufficient, small and lacking many of the technologies that we love so dearly today. But, that world will likely never exist,

Well, maybe it will exist. I mean let's say that humans survive the pollution crisis, in the not so distant future it's likely that farming will become robotized. All land will be worked on by robots. So does that kind of society let one or two individuals be the owners of all the farming land and equipment and then sell that food to people in stores also run by robots and not pay any taxes? Why should they? Are they creating jobs or something? (I mean situation is now similar with oil and gas.) Or should the government own the food and give it to people for free?

Similar with cars. If all cars become automated taxis that most of the people don't even need to own the car, should one guy own all the taxis and collect all the money and pay no taxes?

So maybe "revolution" will come like most revolutions - through technology. I mean technology is the reason why kids don't need to work anymore and go to school and most of the reason why slavery fell apart in US.