Splitting of the Moon

[LastPoet]

Just wait for @AtlasS33 to read this. We know what he thinks of teh hadiths.

[The Grand Nudger]

Same with the Quran. Does it speak of miracles or is it a miracle.

They say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Allah hath certainly power to send down a sign: but most of them understand not. Quran 6:37

That fault could only lie with the designer of human intelligence, who made it so inadequate that the clay and or blood clot golems he manufactured to love his unlovable ass couldn't think good and stuff.

OFC, none of that is true, it's just another thoroughly human excuse in a magic book, for why people who don't have rocks in their skulls..don't take magic books seriously.  Not even the faithful. "Allah" doesn't have any power, and he never sent a single sign. Not even the incredible shrinking moonsplit miracle. Never happened, and you know that too, so you went with some "small piece" song and dance...because you don't believe in fairy tales anymore than the people who magic book was speaking directly to did, then. The con is telegraphed in their own "holy" lit.

"My god performed many miracles, bow down."
-"Shit man, I'm tryin to see that, can he do it again?"
"Screw you kuffar, there won't be any more signs because you're a fucker!"
-"uuuummmm..I just wanted to see the baseball you said you had...."

[Stoneheart]

Never happened, and you know that too, so you went with some "small piece" song and dance...because you don't believe in fairy tales anymore than the people who magic book was speaking directly to did, then.

If the word "Moon" was given a different meaning and if the word "Blood" was made to mean exactly the same thing as the word "Moon" has the moon then been turned into blood?

The sea can be turned into blood in the same way.
Are you able to grasp that concept?
　

Some also say mythical creatures don't exist after not finding any evidence of them.
But I do believe in myths and fairytales. The creatures can be found. In the same way.

[WinterHold]

Never happened, and you know that too, so you went with some "small piece" song and dance...because you don't believe in fairy tales anymore than the people who magic book was speaking directly to did, then.

If the word "Moon" was given a different meaning and if the word "Blood" was made to mean exactly the same thing as the word "Moon" has the moon then been turned into blood?

The sea can be turned into blood in the same way.
Are you able to grasp that concept?
　

Some also say mythical creatures don't exist after not finding any evidence of them.
But I do believe in myths and fairytales. The creatures can be found. In the same way.

A God that plays gymnastic with meanings and words is not worth following; that is not a God.
I expect God to be obvious and clear, I expect him to make me understand what he says.

'Blood' doesn't mean 'moon' in any dictionary, so where did you get that information?
Mythical creatures do not exist unless you want RPG games and fantasies to become true.

Does your belief in the Hadiths make any sense? I mean our oath as Muslims is to listen to what God says and make what he says our "constitution", but the Hadiths are not the word of God even in Islamic tradition. So are you claiming the word of man to be the word of God?

The amount of destruction your attitude causes to the reputation of Islam and the Quran is immense.
Look what Shiite Muslims caused of destruction so as Sunnies.

[Stoneheart]

A God that plays gymnastic with meanings and words is not worth following; that is not a God.
I expect God to be obvious and clear, I expect him to make me understand what he says.

But many interpret as allegory metaphors and add their own meanings to the word of God. That is regarded as perversity.
And many try to make their own current knowledge fit the word of God instead of gaining knowledge from the word of God.

There is division between sects of Islam with different views of the correct interpretation of the Quran. As there is divisions between all religions.

I think that is obvious and clear.
　

　
He it is who has sent down to thee the book: In it are verses basic or fundamental of established meaning; they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. Quran 3:7
　
When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals in stages,- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not. Quran 16:101
　
Those who deny Allah and His messengers, and those who wish to separate Allah from His messengers, saying: "We believe in some but reject others": And those who wish to take a course midway: Quran 4:150
They are in truth equally unbelievers; and we have prepared for unbelievers a humiliating punishment. Quran 4:151

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'Blood' doesn't mean 'moon' in any dictionary, so where did you get that information?
Mythical creatures do not exist unless you want RPG games and fantasies to become true.

My information does not come from a dictionary. It comes from following the word of God. It is everywhere.

Animals (people, places, trees, fruits, objects, etc) have specific positions on a wheel that is formed by following the words. There are multiple animals in each position so they become part of each other. Humans that are part animals are made the same way.

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Does your belief in the Hadiths make any sense? I mean our oath as Muslims is to listen to what God says and make what he says our "constitution", but the Hadiths are not the word of God even in Islamic tradition. So are you claiming the word of man to be the word of God?

How can your belief in the Quran make any sense as being the word of God and not just words of a man? Was Muhammed not a man?

　

Allah chooses messengers from angels and from men for Allah is he who hears and sees all things. Quran 22.75

　

All religious texts can be sorted into two groups. Those that speak inside the wheel and those that don't. After looking at the Quran I can see that it speaks inside the wheel and confirms what I hear. And so do some Hadith.

Baha'u'llah of the Bahai religion a sect of Islam does not speak inside the wheel. His words don't make it into my same pile as Muhammed and Hadiths.

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The amount of destruction your attitude causes to the reputation of Islam and the Quran is immense.
Look what Shiite Muslims caused of destruction so as Sunnies.

Why do you think that?
Please explain.

Is it because I say the signs and miracles did not happen in the way that you want them too?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Never happened, and you know that too, so you went with some "small piece" song and dance...because you don't believe in fairy tales anymore than the people who magic book was speaking directly to did, then.

If the word "Moon" was given a different meaning and if the word "Blood" was made to mean exactly the same thing as the word "Moon" has the moon then been turned into blood?

The sea can be turned into blood in the same way.
Are you able to grasp that concept?
　

Some also say mythical creatures don't exist after not finding any evidence of them.
But I do believe in myths and fairytales. The creatures can be found. In the same way.

So, if we assign different meanings to common, everyday words, then sentences we make from these words will have a new meaning?  Tuesday camembert, loneliness puzzles patriotic?  Paper flashlight research cowboys.

And creatures which leave no evidence look remarkably similar to creatures which don't exist.

Boru

[zebo-the-fat]

So Moon means blood? how, why?
Does pig mean wet? why not?

[Stoneheart]

So, if we assign different meanings to common, everyday words, then sentences we make from these words will have a new meaning?  Tuesday camembert, loneliness puzzles patriotic?  Paper flashlight research cowboys.

And creatures which leave no evidence look remarkably similar to creatures which don't exist.

Boru

Yes that is correct.
But who will try to understand what you are saying?
Most will think you are not making any sense.

　

And the mountains will be like wool. Quran 70:9

Sheep is the same as mountain. It is the same as gold. It is the same as apple. It is the same as the bow and arrow. It is the same as the sun.
There are golden apples to be found there and the golden fleece that is in the apple tree.
There is half men - half horses there with bows and arrows. A wolf man is there.
That is the eastern position of the wheel.
It is also called wine.

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. Amos 9:13

[LastPoet]

Wine? I thought it is forbidden for muslims to drink alcoholic beverages.

[WinterHold]

A God that plays gymnastic with meanings and words is not worth following; that is not a God.
I expect God to be obvious and clear, I expect him to make me understand what he says.

But many interpret as allegory metaphors and add their own meanings to the word of God. That is regarded as perversity.

No I am discussing this as a native Arabic speaker and 'moon' doesn't mean 'blood' and saying that is quite...hilarious.