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RE: The code that is DNA
December 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm
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(December 20, 2019 at 7:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: A person who gets their rocks off instantaneously might not realize why time is a factor.
For time to be a factor it needs to have a causal relationship with micro/macroevolution, which it doesn't. You can, of course, use time to measure the duration that a given species took to branch off or transition into another, just like you can measure the distance that same species traveled during that transition; but neither time nor distance are factors in that transition.
It's understandable to confuse the measurement of a dependant variable, with the independent variable.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 20, 2019 at 9:04 pm
Quote:For time to be a factor it needs to have a causal relationship with micro/macroevolution,
Which it does
Quote:It's understandable to confuse the measurement of a dependant variable, with the independent variables.
Which were not
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 20, 2019 at 9:18 pm
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When you're done embarrassing yourself, John..I'll only mention that both micro and macro evolution have been observed in the lab and in the field, and some unit of time is a positive requirement of what we've observed. Is this really the hill you want to die on? Does it matter that much to you?
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 1:14 pm
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(December 20, 2019 at 6:59 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:it's like saying the difference between a bath and a shower is the time people spend taking them.
No i's more like saying a longer shower and a shorter shower .
Is that old lady you robbed doing ok now?
I have it on good information of your criminal conduct
(December 20, 2019 at 9:18 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: When you're done embarrassing yourself, John..I'll only mention that both micro and macro evolution have been observed in the lab and in the field, and some unit of time is a positive requirement of what we've observed. Is this really the hill you want to die on? Does it matter that much to you?
It is believed that macro evolution takes deep time to accomplish, what macro has been observed in a lab?
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 1:32 pm
Quote:Is that old lady you robbed doing ok now?
Well considering she doesn't exist .Unlike Tours straw man .Just use your imagination .After all you made her up.
Quote:I have it on good information of your criminal conduct
Yeah i imagine you have a lot of information on the thing you made up .To bad unlike Tours straw man that's all it is .
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 3:43 pm
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(December 20, 2019 at 5:23 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (December 20, 2019 at 5:10 pm)JackRussell Wrote: I did not suggest ALL speciation takes deep time. Otherwise it would not be observed in the lab (Lenski) or in fish populations. From the LCA to now is a different matter. Don’t quote papers out of context with this discussion.
That wasn't a paper that was a textbook. It doesn't matter what things you meant to suggest deep time applies to, time is not the distinguishing factor between micro and macroevolution. Everything takes time; it's like saying the difference between a bath and a shower is the time people spend taking them. Well it does. A bath consumes 10 times the fresh water of a shower. More resources are consumed by a bath than a shower.
A bath perpetuates any bacteria washed from the skin. A shower does not.
I could go on.
The point is that your simplistic analogy ignores confounding factors. Science does not.
(December 20, 2019 at 5:37 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: (December 20, 2019 at 5:11 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope i stated a fact back by the fact he did
By all means
Yeah well that never happened unlike Tours straw man .Which is of course why his doesn't bother me .
Had to know something that never happened .Unlike Tour whom i watched do so .
All right then you stand by that thing that never happened and i'll stand by the thing that did happen .I think that makes us both happy .
You talk like a juvenile, no offense, so until you can back something up, you should refrain from posting meaningless accusations. Your feeble attempt to suppress your interlocutors is noted, but futile.
If you are unable to answer even simple questions, that is your problem, nobody else's.
(December 20, 2019 at 6:59 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: The error of time can be illustrated, perhaps poorly, by taking any two species and asking what distinguishes the two. The difference between a cat and a dog, for example, isn't X number of seconds. Among other things it is the type and number of nucleotides, genes, or chromosomes they have; and how they are phenotypically expressed.
And cats and dogs share a common ancestor. Along with bears.
Had you a point you wished to make?
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 4:29 pm
(December 21, 2019 at 3:43 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The point is that your simplistic analogy ignores confounding factors. Science does not.
All analogies are simplistic by design; they help break down more complex themes into digestible portions. You might as well have said my analogy was bad because showers don't have genes.
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 4:40 pm
Quote:All analogies are simplistic by design; they help break down more complex themes into digestible portions. You might as well have said my analogy was bad because showers don't have genes.
Doesn't change the fact that even as an analogy it was bad
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RE: The code that is DNA
December 21, 2019 at 4:49 pm
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(December 21, 2019 at 4:40 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Doesn't change the fact that even as an analogy it was bad
No; Abaddon pointing to other variables besides time as possible distinctions between baths and showers, is precisely my point. So he's on the right track. I just thought calling an analogy simplistic was a bit funny, so I addressed that.
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RE: The code that is DNA
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It is believed that macro evolution takes deep time to accomplish, what macro has been observed in a lab?
I love this argument. It is so well thought out. Think about it, a person could walk from their front door to their mailbox that is 257 steps away, but a person could never walk from New York to California step by step.
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