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Politics
#21
RE: Politics
(January 20, 2020 at 7:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: There we go with the mad ranting ayatollah bit, again.  

Anyway, I'm not sure what method you're referring to, but obviously it isn't secularism.  Secularism is an attempt to prevent those sectarians rivers of blood from flowing.  The quote you graced us with out of magic book is a secular proposition.

For God's sake its legacy was atomic weapons and "The age of deterrence"; or in other words "give me your treasures or I'll nuke you". The darkness of today's world is its legacy. BTW how many years passed since WW2?
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#22
RE: Politics
Secularism doesn't have anything to do with nuclear weapons or foreign adventurism. It's a domestic policy. It states, simply...that the state should not compel people to any religious beliefs.

Do you have a problem with that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#23
RE: Politics
(January 20, 2020 at 7:14 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Secularism doesn't have anything to do with nuclear weapons or foreign adventurism.  It's a domestic policy.  It states, simply...that the state should not compel people to any religious beliefs.  

Do you have a problem with that?

https://atheistforums.org/thread-60329-p...pid1953330

I don't recall a theocratic state that practiced this verse except the very early Islamic nation under prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him-, the massive tolerance to other religions is mentioned  here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Medina


Quote: Wrote:Rights of non-Muslims
The non-Muslims had the following rights on the condition they "follow" the Muslims:[32]
  1. The security of God is equal for all groups,[33]
  2. Non-Muslim members have the same political and cultural rights as Muslims. They have autonomy and freedom of religion.[34]
  3. Non-Muslims take up arms against the enemy of the nation and share the cost of war. There is to be no treachery between the two.[35]
  4. Non-Muslims are not obliged to take part in the Muslims' religious wars.[36]


If you don't care about the Quran -even though it's a fine archeological piece-, you should care about documented history.

Do you have a problem with history saying that Islam protected the religious rights of people in the past?
It is even documented ?
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#24
RE: Politics
There was never any tolerance, let alone "massive tolerance" under Big Mo or any islamist state.

I'll ask you again, do you have a problem with the notion that the state shouldn't compel people to any religious beliefs?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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