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Hell is justified.
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  You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  RE: Hell is justified.
February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2020 at 3:14 pm by WinterHold.)
Nobody knows if they are among the condemned in hell or not, just as nobody knows if they are among those in heaven or not.
I can be in hell. I don't know if my deeds would get me to paradise or not. But many commentators assumed that I'm giving myself a free ticket into paradise for some reason. Some even reached the level of calling me an "extremist"; despite my stress on the value of life. Prison is not enough to treat many crimes; that's my opinion. Especially if a serial killer tortured me and skinned me alive. No; prison is not enough.
I think in the old days, people assumed those in heaven would enjoy seeing their enemies burn in hell. That's part of why it's so bad, in some versions. Most people will eventually forgive all their enemies, or forget their trauma, yet long after that, their god will not spare the punished, because he is the most spiteful entity of all.
AllAss33, do you think that everyone your religion condemns to Hell actually belongs there?
 (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Nobody knows if they are among the condemned in hell or not, just as nobody knows if they are among those in heaven or not.Not knowing where one will end does not make your unfair system fair  (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I can be in hell. I don't know if my deeds would get me to paradise or not.Irrelevant for the fairness of your system, as i already told you above. You can make an unfair system where you will be treated unfair and suffer. (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: But many commentators assumed that I'm giving myself a free ticket into paradise for some reason.Who, when where? (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Some even reached the level of calling me an "extremist"; despite my stress on the value of life.Asking for infinite punishment for finite crimes is exterme. You are an extremist. Claiming that anyone who does not agree with your unfair and grossly immoral system is naive or a criminal, is extreme. You are an extremist. (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Prison is not enough to treat many crimes; that's my opinion.Why? Because you say so? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. (February 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Especially if a serial killer tortured me and skinned me alive. No; prison is not enough.Why, because you say so? As SM already has said: Your magic book has sekwed your moral compass bejond recognition. You literally dont know right from wrong anymore. You think an infite crime is a fair punishment for another finite crime. You think an infinite wrong does compensate a finite wrong. Thats how badly you have been fucked up by your ancient magic book. Stop making excuses for your magic book.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
 RE: Hell is justified.
February 16, 2020 at 5:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2020 at 5:04 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Nobody knows if they are among the condemned in hell or not, just as nobody knows if they are among those in heaven or not.Who cares? Quote:I can be in hell. I don't know if my deeds would get me to paradise or not.And? Quote:But many commentators assumed that I'm giving myself a free ticket into paradise for some reason.You do com off as an extremist Quote:Prison is not enough to treat many crimes; that's my opinion.Opinion Quote:Nobody knows if they are among the condemned in hell or not, just as nobody knows if they are among those in heaven or not.Who cares? Quote:I can be in hell. I don't know if my deeds would get me to paradise or not.And? Quote:But many commentators assumed that I'm giving myself a free ticket into paradise for some reason.You do com off as an extremist Quote:Prison is not enough to treat many crimes; that's my opinion.Opinion
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Not to worry, because Revelations 20:14 says that hades and hell will be thrown into the lake of fire! This is the second death.
So not eternal at all just until god decides to quench your existence in a lake of fire; soul burning fire! 
As far as I'm concerned very few crimes are worthy of infinite punishment, let alone torture.
And certainly no way of thinking deserves it. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" |
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