#BernieOrBust2020

[Chad32]

"Oh, we're losing the election? Let's have these other two drop out so that their votes go to me. Now I'm going to demand party unity because boogeyman Trump."

Sorry DNC, but I'm not going to vote for your corrupt asses that rig an election against the only guy willing to actually fix our country.

At least Trump is doing something on trade, which is one of the reasons I support Bernie. Biden's plan is to make things 2016 again, where health insurance premiums increase on the working middle class in moderate and red states that don't want to expand medicare/medicaid. That's not the solution to our healthcare problems.

You fuckers put Biden in there, and I'm staying home again.

#BernieOrBust2020

At least the bumbling moron is doing something on trade, lol.
The US is really destined to perish, is it. Well, you had a good run.

All empires die eventually. Anything that doesn't change, will get left behind, and the most powerful people in a country don't usually want things to change. Aside from improving the cash flow into their pockets.

[The Architect Of Fate]

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Umm no Obama care wasn't even close and is actually a example showing why Biden is a bad choice

Hence my calling it the rudiments of a universal health care system. It was heavily compromised by the insurance companies and conservatives, that I freely admit.  Still, because of it, a total of 17.5 million Americans have health insurance that they didn't have in 2008. I'd love for America to have a proper single-payer system (the kind that literally every European nation and Canada has had since before my Dad was born). Of course, given that even in its heavily bastardized form, the Republicans still see Obamacare as an abomination that should be destroyed at all cast, I can see why some other Democratic candidates would be pushing their own diluted versions of it. Better than nothing.

It will be even more diluted under biden

[Rev. Rye]

And even that will still be better than nothing. And Trump's administration has been a whole lot of

[The Architect Of Fate]

And even that will still be better than nothing. And Trump's administration has been a whole lot of

And under Biden you will get the same .He won't fight .

[Mister Agenda]

Too bad the DNC doesn't believe that because when asked the candidates with the exception of Sanders said they wouldn't back the person with the most votes

Because that's not how the convention works, according to rules that Bernie signed off on. He had more input into the convention rules than any of the other candidates in a vain effort to keep Bernie Bros from thinking the system was rigged against him. The whole 'guy with the most votes' thing is something he dreamed up when he had the most votes. Now that he's not that guy anymore, at least he's sticking to his guns; but the convention rules weren't made so somebody most of the people didn't vote for could just sweep in. It goes until someone has a majority. The only practical reason to prefer a plurality is if you have the most votes but know you'll never get that majority.

[Figbash]

At the VERY least people should vote for Biden (or whomever is nominated for the D party) unless they want another ultra-conservative and very likely theocratic SCOTUS judge.

Do you support separation of church and state??

[The Grand Nudger]

Funny thing about that, dems have a habit of picking conservative judges, and appointing conservative officials. Sure, they call them "moderates" - but that's a centrist calling someone else moderate with respect to the difference between themselves and the stratospheric right.

Misguided sense of fairness or conciliation.

[Brian37]

People are free to do whatever they want, including not vote. I just don’t want to hear their bitching after the fact, when Trump wins again.

We still have a right to bitch if we don't vote. I really dislike it when people say that, as if I have to eat a shit sandwich without complaint because I didn't vote the way they wanted me to. Fuck that. I'm a citizen no matter which clown is in the White House, and I'll bitch or praise all I want. You do you. How everyone else votes isn't really anyone else's business.

Legal right yes. Logic wise though, it would seem to contradict one's logic if you want Trump out of office, then don't vote to get him out of office. 

If your point of view is priorities or protest, from a legal standpoint, I agree. But that will not change a loss of a vote against him if you sit it out.

If you want to put it in football terms, I'd argue most coaches are going to go with the player who produces the best results, but once they start faltering, that player gets benched.

From a legal rights point of view you are right. Nobody should condemn you for your legal rights. But after that, it becomes about priorities and goals. 

Joe Theisman would be a perfect example for me. He was a great player, and more often than not he had the Cowboy's number. But there would be no damned way I'd hire him to be a play caller like ESPN did.

This election to me is simple, getting rid of the biggest threat even 50 Republican intel agents warned us, when the orange turd was running, whom warned America not to elect him. Then while in office tons of legal experts of both parties agreed, what he has done is damaging our democracy.

Then there is the SCOTUS. Giving Trump 4 more years will make it more impossible to reverse the damage he has done to the court.

Nobody should argue your legal rights to vote for whom you want. I got flack from BOTH Bernie and Hillary supporters in 16 for saying I voted for Bernie in the Primaries and Hillary in the General. And unfortunately I am seeing the same divisions again between Bernie and Biden suporters.

My point of view, isn't to tell anyone to vote for, but I argue unity in the general.

I forgot which founder said it, but it is increasingly relevant today,  went something like "Surely we should hang together, or hang separately."

You do have a right to bitch. But ultimately America still cannot afford 4 more years of the orange turd.

[Shell B]

My vote wouldn't do shit to get Trump out of office. My state always goes Dem. It will again this year. I could vote for a toaster if I wanted to and none of your reasons why I should vote like you or not complain would be relevant.

I've already stated how I'm voting, but I have a goddamn right to vote however I want and have an opinion about national politics no matter how I vote. Telling people not to complain is just another way of saying, "Be like me or shut up." Nope.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

My vote wouldn't do shit to get Trump out of office. My state always goes Dem. It will again this year. I could vote for a toaster if I wanted to and none of your reasons why I should vote like you or not complain would be relevant.

I've already stated how I'm voting, but I have a goddamn right to vote however I want and have an opinion about national politics no matter how I vote. Telling people not to complain is just another way of saying, "Be like me or shut up." Nope.

The Mighty Carlin (peace be upon him!) once made the observation that people who don’t vote actually have MORE of a reason to bitch: ‘I didn’t vote, YOU people did! Now I have to live with the lousy choices the rest of you fuckers made! It’s like you broke your leg and I get to limp for the rest of my life. Fuck you.’

Boru