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RE: "Defeating Trump is more important than all of us"
March 11, 2020 at 12:17 pm
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(March 11, 2020 at 10:22 am)Fierce Wrote: (March 11, 2020 at 10:09 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'm privileged, it won't hurt me much personally if Trump gets four more years.
We as a people need to stop this kind of thinking. It's dangerous. Every individual needs to stop thinking he's living in the world alone. Unfortunately, we get lost in our own little worlds where we think only we matter and those directly close to us. We already know religion is not a solution, because it divides. Most people become to comfortable with their lives, they forget that others are suffering, because they are not as in touch with their humanity as they claim. Atheists are no better than theists in this regard where they prefer the comfort of their own lives over a universal understanding. Atheists, after all, are merely connected by the fact that they all share the non-belief in (god)s. I'm not suggesting we begin an atheist coalition, because honestly it shouldn't be about everyone being theist or everyone being atheist. Rather, logically, it should be about everyone being fucking human and owning their fucking humanity under the common sense understanding that we should be treating each other kindly and with respect.
By the way @Mister Agenda I'm not singling you out particularly. It's just that your comment there stirred a fire within me.
And even in that case, by the end of the paragraph, if I'm reading his post accurately, he's explaining how he figured out how insufficient that line of thinking was. It may well be the case that we as an electorate might be like emaciated dogs begging for scraps at a dinner table while two men are eating steaks. If true, I see the Democrats as the guy who tosses the dog some potato peelings, and the Republicans as the guy who decides to bite the dog when it begs for food. Potato peelings are clearly insufficient food for a starving dog, but at least that guy's not actively malevolent.
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RE: "Defeating Trump is more important than all of us"
March 14, 2020 at 10:39 am
(March 11, 2020 at 10:22 am)Fierce Wrote: (March 11, 2020 at 10:09 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'm privileged, it won't hurt me much personally if Trump gets four more years.
We as a people need to stop this kind of thinking. It's dangerous. Every individual needs to stop thinking he's living in the world alone. Unfortunately, we get lost in our own little worlds where we think only we matter and those directly close to us. We already know religion is not a solution, because it divides. Most people become to comfortable with their lives, they forget that others are suffering, because they are not as in touch with their humanity as they claim. Atheists are no better than theists in this regard where they prefer the comfort of their own lives over a universal understanding. Atheists, after all, are merely connected by the fact that they all share the non-belief in (god)s. I'm not suggesting we begin an atheist coalition, because honestly it shouldn't be about everyone being theist or everyone being atheist. Rather, logically, it should be about everyone being fucking human and owning their fucking humanity under the common sense understanding that we should be treating each other kindly and with respect.
By the way @Mister Agenda I'm not singling you out particularly. It's just that your comment there stirred a fire within me.
Good, because that one line out of context is about the opposite of the overall point I was trying to make.
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RE: "Defeating Trump is more important than all of us"
March 14, 2020 at 11:14 am
(March 11, 2020 at 11:46 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
That was happening during the Obama administration too, and Biden wants to be Obama 2.0. I doubt that will go away during Biden's first year in office, if he's elected.
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RE: "Defeating Trump is more important than all of us"
March 15, 2020 at 5:07 am
(March 14, 2020 at 11:14 am)Chad32 Wrote: (March 11, 2020 at 11:46 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
That was happening during the Obama administration too, and Biden wants to be Obama 2.0. I doubt that will go away during Biden's first year in office, if he's elected.
Quote:Fact-Checking Trump’s Claim That He Didn’t Start Family Separations at Border
Questioned about the new policy, which is sure to be challenged in court, Mr. Trump continued his pattern of blaming “loopholes,” nonexistent laws and former presidents for his own administration’s practice of separating migrant families who cross illegally. President Barack Obama, in particular, has been wrongly cast as the instigator of the practice by Mr. Trump at least two dozen other times.
Under Mr. Trump, the Justice Department announced its “zero-tolerance policy” for illegally entering the United States in April 2018, describing it as “new” and in response to an increase in unauthorized border crossings that spring.
The policy called for the criminal prosecution of everyone who enters the country illegally. As a result, nearly 3,000 children were forcibly separated from adult family members who were detained under the new policy, which multiple top Trump officials have characterized as a deterrent.
While previous administrations did break up families, it was rare — for example, in cases in which there was doubt about the familial relationship between a child and an accompanying adult, according to former officials and immigration experts.
“Nothing like what the Trump administration is doing has occurred before,” Sarah Pierce of the Migration Policy Institute told The New York Times last year.
Mr. Trump’s aides and political allies have misleadingly claimed a 1997 consent decree known as the Flores settlement necessitated family separation. That court agreement limited how long the government could hold migrant children and set standards for their care.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/us/po...ation.html
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RE: "Defeating Trump is more important than all of us"
March 15, 2020 at 7:19 am
(March 15, 2020 at 5:07 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (March 14, 2020 at 11:14 am)Chad32 Wrote: That was happening during the Obama administration too, and Biden wants to be Obama 2.0. I doubt that will go away during Biden's first year in office, if he's elected.
Quote:Fact-Checking Trump’s Claim That He Didn’t Start Family Separations at Border
Questioned about the new policy, which is sure to be challenged in court, Mr. Trump continued his pattern of blaming “loopholes,” nonexistent laws and former presidents for his own administration’s practice of separating migrant families who cross illegally. President Barack Obama, in particular, has been wrongly cast as the instigator of the practice by Mr. Trump at least two dozen other times.
Under Mr. Trump, the Justice Department announced its “zero-tolerance policy” for illegally entering the United States in April 2018, describing it as “new” and in response to an increase in unauthorized border crossings that spring.
The policy called for the criminal prosecution of everyone who enters the country illegally. As a result, nearly 3,000 children were forcibly separated from adult family members who were detained under the new policy, which multiple top Trump officials have characterized as a deterrent.
While previous administrations did break up families, it was rare — for example, in cases in which there was doubt about the familial relationship between a child and an accompanying adult, according to former officials and immigration experts.
“Nothing like what the Trump administration is doing has occurred before,” Sarah Pierce of the Migration Policy Institute told The New York Times last year.
Mr. Trump’s aides and political allies have misleadingly claimed a 1997 consent decree known as the Flores settlement necessitated family separation. That court agreement limited how long the government could hold migrant children and set standards for their care.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/us/po...ation.html
Yeah, so he's just a continuation of the current trend. Not an anomaly. He's probably the worst president yet, but there's bound to be worse ones as this continues.
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