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Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
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RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
(April 27, 2020 at 6:43 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(April 26, 2020 at 2:46 pm)theMadJW Wrote: Sheol (Hebrew) and Hades (Greek) only mean "the grave" - except for the added RELIGIOUS definitions...
Sheol does, but Hades is a person(god) not anything else.
Fail.
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Those words have Literal meanings, and added RELIGIOUS meanings.

Hades: later use of this word: the grave, death, hell
Most Believe ONLY what they WANT to Believe... Bubble Gum
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#32
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
Does anyone know any of those "Bible Christians"?

Or "talibornagain" - as some say. Smile
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#33
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
I dont believe in god or anything any religion says There is no evidence to believe in heaven or hell , or whatever any religion says about afterlife , i think that when we die , our brain stops working and we cease to exist , and thats it , there's no more. And if we think is the most logical thing to expect. , non-existence .We dont have to rely on beliefs in this matter because in that case we would be making factic claims - when i die my soul goes to heaven(or hell)- without no empirical evidence , and there is nothing more unwise than that , as we turn a physical phenomenom into a methaphysical or teological one.
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#34
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
(March 29, 2020 at 9:07 am)Dundee Wrote: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?

I suspect: EVERYBODY - except those maga-super-over-ÜBER-pious Bible Christians.

Am I right?

All those who have not received God's saving grace through the belief in who Christ really is. Only God knows that answer for certain but I have a pretty good idea that most members here will not be in heaven, so hell will be the finial destination. Of coarse changes is possible I know I did. Some here ought to try and find out what Christians know you could get the surprise of your life.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#35
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
Rather go to hell than spend eternity stroking the ego of the celestial dictator.

But, since heaven and hell are fictional and this is the only life we get, I won't waste time worshipping any fictional being.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#36
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
The real question is: is it wrong to send people to hell if that amuses God and God's happiness is more important than ours?
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#37
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
At work.

(June 13, 2020 at 5:24 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: The real question is: is it wrong to send people to hell if that amuses God and God's happiness is more important than ours?

Well, the way you've worded it the answer would seem to ge 'No'.

Of course...... the way you've worded it the caee in point would also seem it to he quite the @rse of a diety. So... good luck getting people to want to sing an @rsehole diety.
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#38
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
(June 13, 2020 at 5:28 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(June 13, 2020 at 5:24 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: The real question is: is it wrong to send people to hell if that amuses God and God's happiness is more important than ours?

Well, the way you've worded it the answer would seem to ge 'No'.

Of course...... the way you've worded it the caee in point would also seem it to he quite the @rse of a diety. So... good luck getting people to want to sing an @rsehole diety.

I don't think God actually cares that much whether people are convinced or not but considering that most of the world is theistic I'd say he's succeeding anyway even when it's not even his priority and there are other planets with other beings that he's mostly focussing on.

The point is that him not caring much or him being called 'evil' by humans doesn't make him amoral or immoral. He's objectively moral because he exists and classical utilitarianism is true.
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#39
RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
At work.

(June 13, 2020 at 5:34 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: I don't think God actually cares that much whether people are convinced or not but considering that most of the world is theistic I'd say he's succeeding anyway even when it's not even his priority and there are other planets with other beings that he's mostly focussing on.

The point is that him not caring much or him being called 'evil' by humans doesn't make him amoral or immoral. He's objectively moral because he exists and classical utilitarianism is true.

So..... just because a 'Lot' of hominids believe something doesn't actually mean that thing is matching reality or true.

Then you have to demonstrate that anything such like 'Diety' exists before you can work out its properties.

Cheers.
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RE: Who goes to hell - as far as those pious Bible Christians are concerned?
(June 13, 2020 at 5:44 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(June 13, 2020 at 5:34 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: I don't think God actually cares that much whether people are convinced or not but considering that most of the world is theistic I'd say he's succeeding anyway even when it's not even his priority and there are other planets with other beings that he's mostly focussing on.

The point is that him not caring much or him being called 'evil' by humans doesn't make him amoral or immoral. He's objectively moral because he exists and classical utilitarianism is true.

So..... just because a 'Lot' of hominids believe something doesn't actually mean that thing is matching reality or true.

Then you have to demonstrate that anything such like 'Diety' exists before you can work out its properties.

Cheers.


I didn't say that God exists because a lot of people believe in it. Where do you think I said that?

And why do I have to prove such a deity exists? I already believe it does and because it does I am stating what matters morally and why hell may actually be a good thing.
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