Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?

[R00tKiT]

Tell that to all the other members of this board. Apparently their only problem with Muhammad is that he killed people. Whether he was right in doing so... they don't care.

Strawman 

You just confirmed my point : you don't care. You just type the word "strawman" mindlessly to increase your posts-o-meter and go back to whatever you were doing.

[Fake Messiah]

Regarding some people saying that Muhammad was a "con artist", this is the most stupid, ignorant accusation I read so far. [...] It's a FACT that Muhammad was sincere [...] Even the biggest christian apologetic ass David Wood acknoweldge this

I did say that sober minded people see that Muhammad was a conman and christian apologists believe in wizards and fairies, so they are not sober minded. You don't have to go further than Quran to see that Muhammad was a conman because Quran is full of lies: like when it claims there are three types of spiritual beings angels, demons and jinns. Or Surah Al Jinn chapter 27 where Muhammad describes how he came upon a crowd of Jinns - now to any sober minded person that is a blatant lie and person who claims it (Muhammad) is a liar and a conman for making people believe this.

[R00tKiT]

I did say that sober minded people see that Muhammad was a conman and christian apologists believe in wizards and fairies, so they are not sober minded. You don't have to go further than Quran to see that Muhammad was a conman because Quran is full of lies: like when it claims there are three types of spiritual beings angels, demons and jinns. Or Surah Al Jinn chapter 27 where Muhammad describes how he came upon a crowd of Jinns - now to any sober minded person that is a blatant lie and person who claims it (Muhammad) is a liar and a conman for making people believe this.

First of all, you "fairies" knowledge is pretty bad; demons are simply the misguided kind of jinns, they're not a proper spiritual type per se. In any case the labels angels, demons, etc. are just labels, they may refer to any kind of life that we may unveil one day.

Second, no serious historian of religions will share the "sober minded people"'s view of Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite. He received nothing but humiliation, opposition and death threats for thirteen years in Mecca. This is not a conman's work.

I already told you, you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about. You will either deny the Qur'an being his work altogether - that is, being posthumously composed, or try to fit his revelations to some medical case. And both these are very very clumsy explanations.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Strawman 

You just confirmed my point : you don't care. You just type the word "strawman" mindlessly to increase your posts-o-meter and go back to whatever you were doing.

Your point that i pointed out a fallacy and you wrote this pointless response because that's what just happened  .Now go back to spewing fallacies and then posting more pointless responses when your called out . 

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Regarding some people saying that Muhammad was a "con artist", this is the most stupid, ignorant accusation I read so far. [...] It's a FACT that Muhammad was sincere [...] Even the biggest christian apologetic ass David Wood acknoweldge this

I did say that sober minded people see that Muhammad was a conman and christian apologists believe in wizards and fairies, so they are not sober minded. You don't have to go further than Quran to see that Muhammad was a conman because Quran is full of lies: like when it claims there are three types of spiritual beings angels, demons and jinns. Or Surah Al Jinn chapter 27 where Muhammad describes how he came upon a crowd of Jinns - now to any sober minded person that is a blatant lie and person who claims it (Muhammad) is a liar and a conman for making people believe this.

So were suppose to care that one person who follows a con thinks another con is legit 

I'll point tha David also thinks he was possessed by demons.And was incapable of telling messages from god from that of satan .And that Islam was spread by death ,greed , and fear . So make of that what you will .

And his response is just a rehash of he martyr argument .Christians (like David Wood)blather that all of history backs their nonsense of Jesus divinity .So your proclamations ring hollow .

[Fake Messiah]

labels angels, demons, etc. are just labels, they may refer to any kind of life that we may unveil one day.

This is just your dishonesty.

Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite.

His biographies (Hadiths) tell that Muhammad was a hunchback who had sex with his aunt's corpse, had sex with 9 year old girls and so on. So you are a moron for not knowing and ignoring it.

you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about.

Muhammad was lying, just like Ron Hubbard and John Smith - and guess what? Their followers also claim how they were the best and humble people ever.

And there's no reason to think otherwise because there's nothing useful in Quran, but rather just bunch of superstitious crap. Just like in "Book of Mormons" and Dianetics.

[The Architect Of Fate]

labels angels, demons, etc. are just labels, they may refer to any kind of life that we may unveil one day.

This is just your dishonesty.

Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite.

His biographies (Hadiths) tell that Muhammad was a hunchback who had sex with his aunt's corpse, had sex with 9 year old girls and so on. So you are a moron for not knowing and ignoring it.

you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about.

Muhammad was lying, just like Ron Hubbard and John Smith - and guess what? Their followers also claim how they were the best and humble people ever.

And there's no reason to think otherwise because there's nothing useful in Quran, but rather just bunch of superstitious crap. Just like in "Book of Mormons" and Dianetics.

As if we need a natural theory to explain it .Yet another fallacy

[Mr Greene]

I did say that sober minded people see that Muhammad was a conman and christian apologists believe in wizards and fairies, so they are not sober minded. You don't have to go further than Quran to see that Muhammad was a conman because Quran is full of lies: like when it claims there are three types of spiritual beings angels, demons and jinns. Or Surah Al Jinn chapter 27 where Muhammad describes how he came upon a crowd of Jinns - now to any sober minded person that is a blatant lie and person who claims it (Muhammad) is a liar and a conman for making people believe this.

Second, no serious historian of religions will share the "sober minded people"'s view of Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite. He received nothing but humiliation, opposition and death threats for thirteen years in Mecca. This is not a conman's work.

I already told you, you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about. You will either deny the Qur'an being his work altogether - that is, being posthumously composed, or try to fit his revelations to some medical case. And both these are very very clumsy explanations.

So exactly like John Smith before moving to Salt Lake City then... 

[The Architect Of Fate]

Second, no serious historian of religions will share the "sober minded people"'s view of Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite. He received nothing but humiliation, opposition and death threats for thirteen years in Mecca. This is not a conman's work.

I already told you, you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about. You will either deny the Qur'an being his work altogether - that is, being posthumously composed, or try to fit his revelations to some medical case. And both these are very very clumsy explanations.

So exactly like John Smith before moving to Salt Lake City then... 

Yup considering he was mocked, persecuted ,mistreated and eventually murdered in very bytal fashion as were many of his followers .

It's almost as if con artist understand the con equires you actually have to play the role

And i don't even want to get into weirdness that is scientology

[R00tKiT]

His biographies (Hadiths) tell that Muhammad was a hunchback who had sex with his aunt's corpse,

 

You ignorant fool. Pick a better website to copy from before discussing history and religion. This popular nonsense arises from a basic confusion between the Arabic words idtajaa' and dajaa' , the first one simply meaning to lie somewhere, while the other means intercourse, which isn't mentioned anywhere in the... not very authentic hadith .The hadith reporting that has a very weak chain of narrators, it's not authentic at all. Even if it was, it would simply mean Muhammad' lied on someone's grave to remind himself of death and resurrection.

Leave this stuff to people who can read, please.

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So exactly like John Smith before moving to Salt Lake City then..

I don't recall John Smith blatantly challenging every English speaker alive to come up with a book similar to his. Nor that he encountered opposition of the military kind.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I don't recall John Smith blatantly challenging every English speaker alive to come up with a book similar to his. Nor that he encountered opposition of the military kind.

Weather he did or not is meaningless

Yes we get that your copy and paste is superior