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Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
#61
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 17, 2020 at 7:51 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(April 16, 2020 at 9:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: What about "Cherubs":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherub

This is the image that got "engraved" in peoples' minds; and the Church -along with Christianity- is what made it viral.

How do you believe in the evolution of earthly creatures, but ignore the assumption that alien life can evolve outside of earth?

From the wikiarticle you cite : 

"In the Book of Ezekiel and (at least some) Christian icons, the cherub is depicted as having two pairs of wings, and four faces: that of a lion (representative of all wild animals), an ox (domestic animals), a human (humanity), and an eagle (birds).[4] Their legs were straight, the soles of their feet like the hooves of a bull, gleaming like polished brass. Later tradition ascribes to them a variety of physical appearances.[4] Some early midrashic literature conceives of them as non-corporeal. In Western Christian tradition, cherubim have become associated with the putto (derived from classical Cupid/Eros), resulting in depictions of cherubim as small, plump, winged boys.[5]"


Now you are being silly. I am not claiming life can not evolve outside of earth. Life is biological, not magical. Humans can not imagine life into being. They imagine this silly nonsense we just cited. Grow up!

I'm not being silly in my accusation to the Church's destruction of the "angel" figure, especially western Christianity -see my bold-.

Life is indeed biological in the context of our "world", but ousting what other worlds may provide is something I can't grasp, there is a very big possibility -scientifically- that the Multi-verse theory is the real scenario. In that scenario other forms of life can exist, and can be totally not biological like it's the case in our world.


Discussing with a terrorist is beyond me:

Klorophil is a terrorism enthusiast, he is the same person as Mysticknight, and moreover he creates sock accounts to bombard this place with posts like this:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-60077-p...pid1947915

Quote:[url=https://atheistforums.org/thread-60077-post-1947915.html#pid1947915][/url]
Klorophil/MysticKnight said:

Again, I deny the existence of a verse who mentions apostasy. I know it's enforced and I know it's there in the Islamic jurisprudence based on an authentic hadith.
And if it is established by a court of Islamic law that it is actual treason (which is extremely complicated to establish and requires incontrovertible proof already) then yes, the punishment is death.

Don't give such a person the chance to even discuss because what he says is not even discussion, it's justification for terrorism.
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#62
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
There we have it. Other muslims are fine with Big Mo being a 7th century warlord. For very nearly two thousand years, didn't bother anyone.

Bothers him so much, today, that he called you a terrorist.
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#63
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 17, 2020 at 10:56 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There we have it.  Other muslims are fine with Big Mo being a 7th century warlord.  For very nearly two thousand years, didn't bother anyone.

Bothers him so much, today, that he called you a terrorist.

In every Islamic era, the reputation of the caliph was facing stress; it even led to the famous infamous advent of the Shiite/Sunni war.

Sects must exist in a "democratic free system" like the system the Quran presents because the famous verse in Sura 2, verse 256:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baqara_256

Everybody can literally believe in what they want without terrorism and murder. 
But you had your evidence that this member is a terrorist that calls for the murder of apostates without even looking at what his holy book said.
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#64
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 18, 2020 at 1:35 am)WinterHold Wrote: Everybody can literally believe in what they want without terrorism and murder. 

Most Muslims obviously don't agree with you, considering that apostasy is punishable by death in 13 Muslim countries.

Or look what these Muslims say, to them it is clear that Sharia says apostasy equals death
Video


teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#65
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 18, 2020 at 1:54 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(April 18, 2020 at 1:35 am)WinterHold Wrote: Everybody can literally believe in what they want without terrorism and murder. 

Most Muslims obviously ...

You were notified in another post by me -bot- that your repetitive messages that have nothing to do with the op are a waste of time.

Your likes only thrive because people like "klorophil" give you an opportunity to justify your sad, redundant behavior.
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#66
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 18, 2020 at 6:25 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(April 18, 2020 at 1:54 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Most Muslims obviously ...

You were notified in another post by me -bot- that your repetitive messages that have nothing to do with the op are a waste of time.

Your likes only thrive because people like "klorophil" give you an opportunity to justify your sad, redundant behavior.

Not to worry.  Mohammad will punish him.  You know, as soon as he's done robbing that caravan, I mean.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#67
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
Yeah, WinterHold starts topics to supposedly have conversations with people, but then he doesn't like when other people converse, comment and give him new information. He just wants to talk to himself.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#68
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
Nah, what he wants is to talk at us. Par for the abrahamic course.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#69
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 18, 2020 at 6:51 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yeah, WinterHold starts topics to supposedly have conversations with people, but then he doesn't like when other people converse, comment and give him new information. He just wants to talk to himself.

You are repeating the same comment over and over and over in the same way; even.
You post a propaganda rightist post that has nothing to do with the OP; with a facebook link or whatsoever, not even close ! and then demand me to converse with you?

You're a bot. Your way of posting is not different from Klorophil.

(April 18, 2020 at 7:23 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Nah, what he wants is to talk at us.  Par for the abrahamic course.

Obviously you have nothing to say more about this matter -i.e the OP-.
So you keep giving thumps up for the bots that repeat the same message over and over. That's your sad job.

That is not debate or discussion. That is spam. You are justifying spam and expect me to buy your justification which is ill.

I want all members to see this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_tank

Quote:Think tanks publish articles, studies or even draft legislation on particular matters of policy or society. This information is then readily used by governments, businesses, media organizations, social movements or other interest groups as part of their goals.[2][3] Think tanks range from those associated with highly academic or scholarly activities to those that are overtly ideological and pushing for particular policy, with widely differing quality of research between them. Later generations of think tanks have tended to be more ideologically-oriented.[2]

Is fake messiah a think tank ? he can be. A mere tool that post tons of content at forums, just like the lame messages he keeps repeating.
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#70
RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
(April 19, 2020 at 1:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: You post a propaganda rightist post that has nothing to do with the OP; [...] You're a bot. Your way of posting is not different from Klorophil.

It has to do with you saying that Muslims who think apostasy should be punished by death are terrorists and I tried to show you how then you would have to call most Muslims terrorists because apostasy is punishable by death in 13 countries, but instead of you addressing that issue you proclaim me as a problem. Yeah, in 13 Muslim countries apostasy is punished by death and I am the main problem.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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