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The USS Theodore Roosevelt
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 10:56 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: He thinks that there's some suspicious about people on a boat coming down with a respiratory illness.

As opposed to the sane evaluation that a ship - civilian or military - is essentially a floating Petri dish.

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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 10:56 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: He thinks that there's some suspicious about people on a boat coming down with a respiratory illness.
No, he wants there to be something suspicious about people on a boat coming down with a respiratory illness.
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#13
RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
People crammed on ships get sick with the same thing pretty frequently...that's why a cruise has never been on my to-do list.

Intense GI distress is something I don't want at all and certainly don't want to share with a ship full of strangers....same goes for hacking, wheezing, might die from URIs.
  
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 12:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: People crammed on ships get sick with the same thing pretty frequently...that's why a cruise has never been on my to-do list.  

Intense GI distress is something I don't want at all and certainly don't want to share with a ship full of strangers....same goes for hacking, wheezing, might die from URIs.

Don't remember any plague-like situations when I was active duty. Have to look that up.
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 12:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: People crammed on ships get sick with the same thing pretty frequently...that's why a cruise has never been on my to-do list.  

Intense GI distress is something I don't want at all and certainly don't want to share with a ship full of strangers....same goes for hacking, wheezing, might die from URIs.

Don't remember any plague-like situations when I was active duty. Have to look that up.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm#2019

Was speaking more of cruise ships...though the close quarters on a military ship would be a prime place for Coronavirus to move through since it's so contagious.
  
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 12:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Don't remember any plague-like situations when I was active duty. Have to look that up.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm#2019

Was speaking more of cruise ships...though the close quarters on a military ship would be a prime place for Coronavirus to move through since it's so contagious.

Norovirus (vomiting bug), my step-daughters school went down with that a few years ago. Bet that was fun at sea.
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 21, 2020 at 12:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(April 21, 2020 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Don't remember any plague-like situations when I was active duty. Have to look that up.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm#2019

Was speaking more of cruise ships...though the close quarters on a military ship would be a prime place for Coronavirus to move through since it's so contagious.
I slept in a berthing space with 200 bunks. That's worse that it sounds because the middle third of the space was "living area", so there were 100 bunks on each side. I could reach out and touch the bunk opposite me. Four deep, with four more on the other side of support stanchions. Men were within two feet of each other in any direction.
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RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
(April 20, 2020 at 11:29 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: You think there is something fishy about an outbreak on a vessel packed with 4500 people in close quarters?

They did NOT decommission the captain. He retained his rank and remains in the Navy. They relieved him of command.

I agree about Trump but please be more accurate and refrain from baseless conspiracy theories.

I am trying to get the unbiased reports from the critically thinking theists. I'm not too swift, as you know; I only watch FauxNews and I can't tell when Trump lies and when the Trumpettes lie for him.

So they did not decommission the captain - he's still on the pay-roll, and I think I saw a report that they are considering returning him to duty. They decommissioned the Secretary of the Navy. He did something wrong - he did not want the ship to isolate - he wanted it to keep steaming on.
Quote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/po...iring.html
“After mismanaging the Covid-19 outbreak on the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, it became obvious that Acting Secretary Modly had forfeited his ability to lead the Navy,” Representative Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington and the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said in a statement. “His actions had become a distraction at a time when we need the Navy to be focused on preserving the safety of our sailors and maintaining the readiness of our fleet.”


Or maybe, the Captain maybe got the virus, and asked to be relieved to isolate, because he knew he was going to go into the unconsciousness of a fever, and/or he realized that the crew needed to be isolated, anyway; so he told the other ships in his fleet that he was going to park the ship in Guam immediately.
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#19
RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
The (acting) sec of the navy resigned in disgrace after flying out to the plague ship at taxpayer expense to tell the crew to stop loving their stupid captain who tried to save their lives, and his speech aboard the vessel found it's way to the media.

They tried to stop that from happening, and failed.
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#20
RE: The USS Theodore Roosevelt
So what are the statistics?

4069 person crew
678 positive COVID-19
10 hospitalizations
1 death

And it sounds like they are testing the crew everyday - some testing positive after having been negative:

Navy leadership took the steps after a number of sailors tested positive for the novel coronavirus even after their 14-day isolation period, three crew members told POLITICO. Some of the sailors who recently tested positive had previously tested negative, one Navy official said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21...ure-198081
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