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Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
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RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
“Science is for this world, for the use of man. It is perfectly candid. It does not try to conceal, but to reveal. It is the enemy of mystery, of pretense and cant. It does not ask people to be solemn, but sensible. It calls for and insists on the use of all senses, of all the facilities of the mind. It does not pretend to be 'holy' or 'inspired.' It courts investigation, criticism and even denial. It asks for the application of every test, for trial by every standard. It knows nothing of blasphemy and does not ask for the imprisonment of those who ignorantly or knowingly deny the truth. The good that springs from the knowledge of the truth is the only reward it offers, and the evil that results from ignorance is the only punishment it threatens. Its effort is to reform the world through intelligence.” (Robert G. Ingersoll, Myth and MiracleRead
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#32
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WS712DHfmg



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#33
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 3, 2020 at 8:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WS712DHfmg
That was a waste of time. Dodgy
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#34
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 3, 2020 at 8:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 3, 2020 at 8:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WS712DHfmg
That was a waste of time.  Dodgy

I know. Its quite good though.



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#35
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
So, we have a thread titled, "Why science tries to separate the beginning from evolution." Okay, sounds interesting. I mean, I have a pretty good idea why these are regarded as separate things, but I click it because I'm curious and want to see what this person has to say.

Uh ... <scratches head> ... yeah, it turns out that he had absolutely nothing to say in line with what the title promised. Literally nothing. Instead there is this wild-eyed fantasy story with zero connection to science, to anything that even resembles science. And it gets worse, for it also doesn't have any intelligible connection to the theory evolution—or even to "theory" as understood in science. This benighted claptrap extends the meaning of "wrong" to a degree that I have never encountered before. Honestly, not even Answers in Genesis gets evolution or science this wrong (which had set the bar for "wrong," until now).

What a fucking disappointment.

Anyway, let's try to resurrect this possibly otherwise interesting point. Why in science do we separate "the beginning" from the theory of evolution?



(May 3, 2020 at 4:26 am)Nomad Wrote: Religions don't like science because ...

False. Even if you modify that to say, "Religious people don't like science," it would still be false.
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#36
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm)JohnMBauer Wrote:
(May 3, 2020 at 4:26 am)Nomad Wrote: Religions don't like science because ...

False. Even if you modify that to say, "Religious people don't like science," it would still be false.

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RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm)theMadJW Wrote: The Untold Story of Evolution! (Part 1)

When lightning struck the primordial sea, where the amino acids were floating about, it shocked one of them into life , and the 
 realization that it needed to do something QUICK to survive was imperative!
 So it made itself into an amoeba with an I.Q of 324!

It realized how hungry it was- but couldn't see where the floating foodstuffs were, so it had an idea, and after deciding that it should
 form a mouth to eat it, and fins to propel it to it, that FIRST he needed to SEE it- so he worked FURIOUSLY for a few minutes forming
 the first crude eye. 
Then he reproduced himself many times!

Then they came up with an idea of making a mouth, and a set of fins, which enabled them to finally scarf down some 
 foodstuff, and open the first Fast Foodstuff chain for all the other cells.

So, if I'm interpreting this accurately, you seem to believe animals (which is what you seem to have made the first amoeba into) formed before there were any plants for them to eat.


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RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm)JohnMBauer Wrote: So, we have a thread titled, "Why science tries to separate the beginning from evolution." Okay, sounds interesting. I mean, I have a pretty good idea why these are regarded as separate things, but I click it because I'm curious and want to see what this person has to say.

Uh ... <scratches head> ... yeah, it turns out that he had absolutely nothing to say in line with what the title promised. Literally nothing. Instead there is this wild-eyed fantasy story with zero connection to science, to anything that even resembles science. And it gets worse, for it also doesn't have any intelligible connection to the theory evolution—or even to "theory" as understood in science. This benighted claptrap extends the meaning of "wrong" to a degree that I have never encountered before. Honestly, not even Answers in Genesis gets evolution or science this wrong (which had set the bar for "wrong," until now).

What a fucking disappointment.

Anyway, let's try to resurrect this possibly otherwise interesting point. Why in science do we separate "the beginning" from the theory of evolution?



(May 3, 2020 at 4:26 am)Nomad Wrote: Religions don't like science because ...

False. Even if you modify that to say, "Religious people don't like science," it would still be false.

In science we separate the beginning from the theory of evolution for the same reason we separate Physical chemistry, organic chemistry and quantum chemistry from each Other - so we can specialize and more quickly further deeper understanding of different facets of the very same underlying natural phenomenons. 

Can you truly be so profoundly ignorant that you would think your stridently moronic rhetorical question can possibly solicit anything but uproarious laughter?    If so, then for your own good Shut the fuck up, trash can your bible, and get a real education.

Like all morons totally blinded by the Bible, you Use such elements of what you conceive to be science that you imagine you’ve graspEd the very same way any totally blind man uses a lamp post, for support, not illumination.
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#39
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
(May 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm)theMadJW Wrote: The Untold Story of Evolution! (Part 1)

When lightning struck the primordial sea, where the amino acids were floating about, it shocked one of them into life , and the 
 realization that it needed to do something QUICK to survive was imperative!
 So it made itself into an amoeba with an I.Q of 324!

It realized how hungry it was- but couldn't see where the floating foodstuffs were, so it had an idea, and after deciding that it should
 form a mouth to eat it, and fins to propel it to it, that FIRST he needed to SEE it- so he worked FURIOUSLY for a few minutes forming
 the first crude eye. 
Then he reproduced himself many times!

Then they came up with an idea of making a mouth, and a set of fins, which enabled them to finally scarf down some 
 foodstuff, and open the first Fast Foodstuff chain for all the other cells.

Hilarious

'Natural' 'Selection' at work!

Wait'll they let me post PICTURES!

Um yea, here is the problem with your argument, NOBODY is claiming this is how evolution happened.

Sorry someone sold you this BS. But this is not what evolution claims.
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#40
RE: Why 'Science' tries to separate the beginning from Evolution!
Seems Mad has separated himself from sanity.
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