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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 7:39 am
(June 12, 2020 at 5:25 am)Agnostico Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 9:06 am)brewer Wrote: EditP, very interesting that you picked OJ. There have been so many other highly publicized killings/trials since then, why him as your example?
I dunno, he just came to mind
In your world I'm sure he did.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 8:24 am
(June 11, 2020 at 6:35 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 2:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It doesn't work, it's expensive, and rationalizations for it are hilariously inept. Zero recidivism rate. That works like a motherfucker.
You want to cut the murder rate? Enact strict contols on the ownership of guns. Make the same a privilege that a person will have to jump through high hoops to obtain and I'll guarantee the murder rate will go down.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 8:25 am
(June 12, 2020 at 6:45 am)Nomad Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 9:06 am)brewer Wrote: When they can make the legal process infallible and cost effective I might consider it.
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't mind seeing a few specific people whacked.
EditP, very interesting that you picked OJ. There have been so many other highly publicized killings/trials since then, why him as your example?
Easy, black man who was found innocent despite good evidence indicating guilt. In agnodtico's little neo-nazi mind, black people are automatically guilty.
brewer Wrote:In your world I'm sure he did.
I see a man...
U see a black man because you are racist to the core...
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 9:14 am
(June 12, 2020 at 6:45 am)Nomad Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 9:06 am)brewer Wrote: When they can make the legal process infallible and cost effective I might consider it.
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't mind seeing a few specific people whacked.
EditP, very interesting that you picked OJ. There have been so many other highly publicized killings/trials since then, why him as your example?
Easy, black man who was found innocent despite good evidence indicating guilt. In agnodtico's little neo-nazi mind, black people are automatically guilty.
So, clairvoyancy is real afterall.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 9:16 am
(June 12, 2020 at 8:24 am)Nomad Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 6:35 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Zero recidivism rate. That works like a motherfucker.
You want to cut the murder rate? Enact strict contols on the ownership of guns. Make the same a privilege that a person will have to jump through high hoops to obtain and I'll guarantee the murder rate will go down.
That’s just crazy talk. The only reason you’re suggesting it is that it works everywhere it’s been tried.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 9:16 am
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(June 12, 2020 at 8:24 am)Nomad Wrote: (June 11, 2020 at 6:35 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Zero recidivism rate. That works like a motherfucker.
You want to cut the murder rate? Enact strict contols on the ownership of guns. Make the same a privilege that a person will have to jump through high hoops to obtain and I'll guarantee the murder rate will go down.
And if the rate doesn't go down how do we collect on that guarantee? How much of a drop will we see? What if at some point it goes back up? Do we collect then?
If I get a guarantee - I want specifics....
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 9:41 am
On the one hand, OJ is still the first example to come to my mind as well. Of course, Robert Durst and R. Kelly also come to mind and their cases are probably less likely to be contested.
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 10:41 am
(June 12, 2020 at 9:16 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 12, 2020 at 8:24 am)Nomad Wrote: You want to cut the murder rate? Enact strict contols on the ownership of guns. Make the same a privilege that a person will have to jump through high hoops to obtain and I'll guarantee the murder rate will go down.
And if the rate doesn't go down how do we collect on that guarantee? How much of a drop will we see? What if at some point it goes back up? Do we collect then?
If I get a guarantee - I want specifics....
1. If the rate doesn’t go down, you’ll get your guns back.
2. The most recent figures I can find on homicides by firearm (leaving out suicide and accidents) in the US is 4.46/100 000 population. Adopting either the Scandinavian or Oceania model of gun control should lower that to 0.5 or less. If it doesn’t, you get your guns back.
3. If the new rate returns to the old rate, you’ll get your guns back, plus a voucher for 1000 rounds of ammunition (calibre TBNL).
Specific enough?
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 10:47 am
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(June 12, 2020 at 10:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 12, 2020 at 9:16 am)onlinebiker Wrote: And if the rate doesn't go down how do we collect on that guarantee? How much of a drop will we see? What if at some point it goes back up? Do we collect then?
If I get a guarantee - I want specifics....
1. If the rate doesn’t go down, you’ll get your guns back.
2. The most recent figures I can find on homicides by firearm (leaving out suicide and accidents) in the US is 4.46/100 000 population. Adopting either the Scandinavian or Oceania model of gun control should lower that to 0.5 or less. If it doesn’t, you get your guns back.
3. If the new rate returns to the old rate, you’ll get your guns back, plus a voucher for 1000 rounds of ammunition (calibre TBNL).
Specific enough?
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And 1000 rounds voucher?
I have more than that just waiting to be put away....
Make it 100,000....
Of .450 Bushmaster....
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RE: Capital Punishment
June 12, 2020 at 11:14 am
(June 12, 2020 at 10:47 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 12, 2020 at 10:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. If the rate doesn’t go down, you’ll get your guns back.
2. The most recent figures I can find on homicides by firearm (leaving out suicide and accidents) in the US is 4.46/100 000 population. Adopting either the Scandinavian or Oceania model of gun control should lower that to 0.5 or less. If it doesn’t, you get your guns back.
3. If the new rate returns to the old rate, you’ll get your guns back, plus a voucher for 1000 rounds of ammunition (calibre TBNL).
Specific enough?
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And 1000 rounds voucher?
I have more than that just waiting to be put away....
Make it 100,000....
Of .450 Bushmaster....
*shrug* You can make it a million rounds of elk-seeking missiles if you like. You’ll never collect.
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