The Logistics of Reparations

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You lurked here for three days, and this racist screed was the best that you could come up with?

Boru

[Doug1943]

Got nuthin', huh?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Got plenty, in fact. But I’m more or less done engaging with yammerheads like you.



Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

So, if there are going to be reparations, let them be like food stamps, which, in theory, can only be spent on food, not on drugs or alcohol.  (Note: the operative phrase there is "in theory".)

That's one of the major problems with the snap program.  Cash assistance worked better.  Turns out, as counterintuitive as it may be, poor people make better decisions about how to spend money than people observing from afar would make for them.  

Here's how I think the reparations should be used: getting inner-city Blacks out of their terrible high crime environment, where the murder rate has shot up in the last two years, for some reason. 

Why would it matter how you think they should be used?  

Let's think outside of the box here!

Mhm.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Wow, so every right-wing talking point and dumbass stereotype shoved into one post...Impressive 

[The Architect Of Fate]

Got plenty, in fact. But I’m more or less done engaging with yammerheads like you.



Boru

Good policy 

[Aegon]

So, let the money be used to build new high-rise apartments  -- like 'the Projects' in South Chicago -- but in safe areas, where they new inhabitants will be assured of a warm welcome (not among horrible racist XYZ-phobic Trumpsters!)

Identify the areas where 75% or more of the population voted for Joe Biden, and which have average family incomes of $100 000 or greater. (The American average is about $65 000). Areas like Marin County and other parts of the Bay Area, and similar places around the country. In other words, where well-off white liberals live.

Then buy up an acre or two of land there, demolish the homes on it (after compensating  the owners), and build the high-rise apartments, and move in several thousand Black people from areas like South Chicago.

The local police, in case they are harboring the same racist attitudes that inner-city police seem to develop, would need to be put on notice that they are not to harrass, arrest, or otherwise bother the new inhabitants. 

The local white population would be strongly encouraged to invite their new neighbors into their homes for a welcoming meal.   

This is surely the best way to spend reparations money!  I know that all white liberals and progressives would welcome this development!  (If they don't, they should check their privilege, or read Kendi X about liberal racism.)

Let's think outside of the box here!

Oh geez, I don't know where to start with this one. How about let's start with: at what age were you conditioned to have a general disdain for black people?

[Cecelia]

Talking about reparations, can it be determined how many black people are descendants of slaves and how many are descended from people who came afterward, with their own free will?

I guess not many came afterward because there was segregation until a little over 50 years ago which didn't make the US very desirable for black people to come and live.

Slaves and their descendants aren't the only thing we owe reparations for, though. How many black veterans were denied the same privileges of the GI Bill? How many anti-black policies have prevented black people from getting loans, buying property, or doing many of the same things white people were allowed to. I always see people talk about 'descendants of slaves'. But many people were affected by racist policies enacted by our government, long after slavery ended.

[Fake Messiah]

Who knows, maybe some reparations may be happening soon, at least from the Catholic Church

Catholic Jesuits are confessing their participation in slavery. Some wonder if revealing 'sinful past' is more PR than atonement

Joseph Stewart, a 79-year-old African American who grew up in the small town of Maringouin, Louisiana, has been a devoted Catholic his entire life.

"I was baptized a Catholic, raised a Catholic, almost went to seminary as a Catholic and I'm still a Catholic," Stewart said.

But on April 16, 2016, Stewart discovered a painful truth about the Catholic church's participation in slavery and his own connection to that recently uncovered history. It's a history that some residents of Phoenix also learned more deeply about during a recent visit by a Jesuit leader.

On that day in 2016 a friend called to alert Stewart to a front page story in the New York Times with the headline: "272 Slaves Were Sold to Save Georgetown. What Does It Owe Their Descendants?"

Through the article, Stewart learned for the first time that Catholic Jesuits had once owned slaves to work tobacco plantations in Maryland. In 1838, the Jesuits had sold 272 enslaved people to sugar plantations in Louisiana near Maringouin to save what is now Georgetown University from financial ruin.

In the weeks that followed Stewart found out he had an even deeper connection to the sale of enslaved people by the Jesuits. He himself was one of the descendants.

The partnership is intended to expand public awareness about the Catholic Church's participation in slavery, and raise a goal of $1 billion to benefit descendants as part of process of truth, healing and reconciliation.

The Jesuits made a pledge in March 2021 to raise $100 million toward the $1 billion goal within three to five years.

The fundraising has gotten off to a slow start. The initial $15 million deposited in the trust by the Jesuits has barely grown. Descendants are starting to wonder whether the Jesuits' public apology for the Catholic order's enslavement of their ancestors and promises to rectify the harms they committed were little more than hollow words.

In a scathing letter to Catholic officials in Rome, Stewart and other descendants accuse the Jesuits of dragging their feet at a time when a decades-old national and global movement for reparations has gained momentum.

"It is becoming obvious to all who look beyond words that Jesuits are not delivering in deed," Stewart wrote in the Aug. 3 letter to the Rev. Arturo Sosa, the head of the Jesuits in Rome. "No matter how well their intent, the Jesuits have not set up this partnership for success."

To speed up the fundraising process, the descendants want the Jesuits to transfer proceeds from past and future sales of plantation lands, including $57 million the Jesuits made from the sale of some plantation lands in 2009 by Christmas of this year.

They want the Jesuits to deposit $100 million by next July; $500 million by July 2025; and $1 billion by July 2029.

See the rest in link:

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/loca...879686001/

[Neo-Scholastic]

Uh huh....

Detail how it is racist.

It’s racist because you seem to think that reparations might be paid out according to whose ancestors owned and traded slaves, ie, ‘white people’. That’s not remotely how something like this would work.  The US government allowed, supported and and gave legal protections to slavery and apartheid. The government will pay, not individuals. 

Boru

Just how stupid are you? The government is ultimately funded by individuals.