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Intellectual Humility: A Guiding Principle For The Skeptical Movement?
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RE: Intellectual Humility: A Guiding Principle For The Skeptical Movement?
(September 11, 2020 at 12:00 am)Ranjr Wrote: It fully opposes science that challenges it's claims.

You should avoid glittering generalities and strawmen.


Sometimes some religious people oppose such science, and sometimes they don't. The case of Galileo has become a popular myth among some atheists, repeated as evidence of things that never happened.
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Yeah, if only atheists could understand the inquisition.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(September 10, 2020 at 5:23 pm)brewer Wrote: I didn't know there was a "Skeptical Movement". Where do I go to sign up?

If you eat more skeptical fibre, you'll have more regular skeptical movements.

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(September 11, 2020 at 1:14 am)Belacqua Wrote: You should avoid glittering generalities and strawmen.


Sometimes some religious people oppose such science, and sometimes they don't. The case of Galileo has become a popular myth among some atheists, repeated as evidence of things that never happened.

Religions do in fact oppose science that challenges it's views.  That is observable.  Religious people, as you shifted terminology, may not be aware of science that challenges their beliefs, which I why I didn't imagine, as you do, what they think.  To say the Inquisition didn't happen and Galileo was not kept under house arrest shows willful ignorance.  It only took the Church 350 years to admit it's mistake.  There is hope for you.
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(September 9, 2020 at 1:10 pm)Lawz Wrote: Seems to me that intellectual humility is far more likely to win over the faith heads than professed certainty

If this were true, then it would be difficult to explain those faithheads.  People who did not, in fact, go with the guy serving intellectual humility.  

Just food for thought.
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Quote:"The medical art was sent from God for the saving of human life." The teaching of the church, Gregory [of Nyssa] argued elsewhere, not only permitted but commanded research into medicine and physiology, including the use of dissection.

Jaroslav Pelikan, Christianity and Classical Culture; the Metamorphosis of Natural Theology in the Christian Encounter with Hellenism, pg. 102
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(September 12, 2020 at 3:10 am)Belacqua Wrote:
Quote:"The medical art was sent from God for the saving of human life." The teaching of the church, Gregory [of Nyssa] argued elsewhere, not only permitted but commanded research into medicine and physiology, including the use of dissection.

Jaroslav Pelikan, Christianity and Classical Culture; the Metamorphosis of Natural Theology in the Christian Encounter with Hellenism, pg. 102

But there's a reason I took the Hippocratic oath and not the Jesus Oath at medschool.

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