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what is the point?
RE: what is the point?
(September 19, 2020 at 6:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: US military forces freed the slaves - it would be nice if god had done it, though.  620k americans died in the process.  Your imaginary friend is useless, Drich.

We could use an assist right now.  What's the eta on that?  When will christ or christians do something about how we got into this shit?

I can almost see Drich making this transactional: 'God, in His wisdom, sacrificed 620K people to free 4 million.'

Any bets he won't see the flaw?  Any takers?  Anyone?

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: what is the point?
(September 19, 2020 at 6:55 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 19, 2020 at 6:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: US military forces freed the slaves - it would be nice if god had done it, though.  620k americans died in the process.  Your imaginary friend is useless, Drich.

We could use an assist right now.  What's the eta on that?  When will christ or christians do something about how we got into this shit?

I can almost see Drich making this transactional: 'God, in His wisdom, sacrificed 620K people to free 4 million.'

Any bets he won't see the flaw?  Any takers?  Anyone?

Boru

I fold. You don't suppose Drich is able to test the validity of faith? I sure don't think so.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: what is the point?
(September 18, 2020 at 10:26 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 18, 2020 at 6:25 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Drich wrote: well all the good nazi's were atheist.. 

You still have yet to list any leading Nazis who were atheists.
yes it did.. go back to page 1 start reading from there.

I did, and you're wrong. Just because some Nazis persecuted Christians, invented their own forms of Christianity, or espoused pagan beliefs does not make them atheists. Stop obfuscating! Go ahead and cite the actual passages which demonstrate that most leading Nazis were atheists as you keep alleging.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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RE: what is the point?
(September 18, 2020 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 18, 2020 at 11:34 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The NAZIs were catholic. 
WW2 German soldiers had belt buckles with "GOT MIT UNS" on it which translates to "god with us"

actually dummy they weren't. they broke from the RC church in the late 1920s and in the mid thirties rolled out their own state/nazi version of religion. it was call positive christianity. they basically rewrote the bible and made mein kampf apart of the religious readings. in 1933 they even disovled the The Centre Party which was political part who had roman catholic views and wanted to make their conservative values apart of the german state. that would be like trump disbanding the evangelicals and murdering all of their top officials. How then can one say he is apart of the evangelical movement if he had all the top guys killed, and his own state sponsored church replace the evangelical church???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(Germany)

You god hating douche bags are trying to rewrite history with german propaganda. the same propaganda they used on the people, but did the oppsite behind the scenes.. seriously read the links.

Quote:"The völkisch-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

Quote:"I would like here to appeal to a greater than I, Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a Christian' prevented him from being an anti-Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."


Quote:The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today


Quote:We will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else – in any case, something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our program there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will - not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord


So was Hitler a christian? he certainly said things to appeal to christians like the germans that ran the camps and carried out the attrocities all the while carrying out the long tradition of killing jews that was a hallmark of the catholic church for centuries.

So was he prentending and evil like Trump or was he truly a christian and evil like (see most of european/American history for examples).



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