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My new YouTube video about atheism
#41
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
(September 28, 2020 at 7:35 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: And in modern day we'd use a photometer and accurate clocks.  No humans needed.

The photometer and clocks were designed, programmed, constructed, and implemented by humans. Humans came up with the theories which the machines are used to test. Humans read the numbers off the screens and decide how they apply to the experiment, and how the experiment applies to the theory. 

Lots of humans needed.
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#42
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
(September 28, 2020 at 8:03 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Lots of humans needed.

Its also worth noting that many of our tools are designed to transform observations that exist outside our perceptual system (e.g. infrared radiation), and transforms them into something humans can perceive and understand. This transformative process of information affects its reliability. We are studying the world, not as it is, but as it can be forcibly changed to fit our minds.
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#43
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
(September 28, 2020 at 8:12 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Its also worth noting that many of our tools are designed to transform observations that exist outside our perceptual system (e.g. infrared radiation), and transforms them into something humans can perceive and understand. This transformative process of information affects its reliability. We are studying the world, not as it is, but as it can be forcibly changed to fit our minds.

So what?  Even with our own senses we aren't studying the world "as it is". 

Where are you going with this?  I feel this is just a lot of obfuscation so you can throw gods or souls into science.
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#44
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
It's a secluded Argument From Ignorance.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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#45
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
If everything is just conjecture and opinion, and we can't trust our senses, then his nebulous religious beliefs are no more or less credible than literally any other proposition.

John can't make his case, and can't even conceive of a way to make his case - so the only option available to him and within his ability to pursue is to burn everything else to the ground. It's idiotic, since it doesn't help to advance his case, erodes that very case, and leaves him with no way to advance his case.
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#46
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Everything I've said I've referenced. My only case in this thread has been the importance of psychology.
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#47
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
A common loon is similarly capable of referencing whatever happens to fall out of their mouth. Is reference your truth-making property? Is that how you'd advance your case after burning the fundamental underpinnings of those references to ash?

How do you expect that to work?
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#48
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
References are how I substantiated my claims. It allows others to verify what I've said.
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#49
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
So..yes? Tell me, would the agreement of your reference demonstrate the truth of your conjectures and opinions?

Pretty sure you burnt that down already. The futility of a scorched earth plan never seems to dawn on cultists.
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#50
RE: My new YouTube video about atheism
Credentials ... pfffft.

How many more authority figures speak for you, John?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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