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Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
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RE: Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
(March 3, 2011 at 9:39 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Shoot the people making the contract with you... you already have control over the relevant area. If they claim to own it: shoot them. Now you own it.

Contracts are only relevant so long as the people holding the contract see good reason to continue doing so.

That will land you in jail before you can say,"oops".
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#12
RE: Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
Even that douchebag Karzai is figuring this whole issue out.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-06/world...s=PM:WORLD


Quote:Apologies are not sufficient when it comes to civilian casualties, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told the NATO commander Sunday, days after a NATO airstrike killed nine Afghan boys.

Karzai told Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, that incidents of civilian casualties during coalition military operations are the main reason for tensions in the U.S.-Afghan relationship and he demanded there be no more, according to a statement from Karzai's office.
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RE: Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
(March 9, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Emporion Wrote:
(March 3, 2011 at 9:39 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Shoot the people making the contract with you... you already have control over the relevant area. If they claim to own it: shoot them. Now you own it.

Contracts are only relevant so long as the people holding the contract see good reason to continue doing so.

That will land you in jail before you can say,"oops".

Let me see... you have the power of the entire military, and someone wants to put you in jail. Shoot them too.

Not that i disagree with your point, however it must be noted that the threat of jail only applies when the people who support putting you in jail are altogether more powerful than you are.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
(March 4, 2011 at 11:34 am)leo-rcc Wrote:
(March 3, 2011 at 4:56 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Is all of afghanistan really worth fighting over? I don't think so.

Even the Russians finally came to that conclusion.

The Soviet Union wanted to nip in the bud any Islamist revival on the borders of their primarily Muslim Central-Asian Soviet Republics by invading Afghanistan. They were in fact much closer to success in 1983 then we are now, when they have all but crushed all resistence in the cities and in the countries. But we decided in the name of freedom to arm all and sundry who would discomfit the Soviets. The Taliban and the train cadre of Al Qeada grew directly out of Mujahadin we armed through Pakistan and the 6 years of guerrila war that resulted. In many ways we are reaping what we've sown in Afghanistan. It was the war in Afghanistan that undoubtedly popularized the notion amongst Islamists of armed jihad against all who are perceived to transgress into Islamdom, and created the belief that Islamic ferver, a smattering of modern weapons coupled with rejection of modern values, can defeat even the most modern and powerful secular forces. One might say the defeat of Soviet Union in Afganistan that we crowed over in 1991 is really a long unfolding diseaster that will be with us for decades to come.
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RE: Whoops! Hey. Sorry about your kids.
(March 9, 2011 at 6:46 pm)Chuck Wrote: The Soviet Union wanted to nip in the bud any Islamist revival on the borders of their primarily Muslim Central-Asian Soviet Republics by invading Afghanistan. They were in fact much closer to success in 1983 then we are now, when they have all but crushed all resistence in the cities and in the countries. But we decided in the name of freedom to arm all and sundry who would discomfit the Soviets. The Taliban and the train cadre of Al Qeada grew directly out of Mujahadin we armed through Pakistan and the 6 years of guerrila war that resulted. In many ways we are reaping what we've sown in Afghanistan. It was the war in Afghanistan that undoubtedly popularized the notion amongst Islamists of armed jihad against all who are perceived to transgress into Islamdom, and created the belief that Islamic ferver, a smattering of modern weapons coupled with rejection of modern values, can defeat even the most modern and powerful secular forces. One might say the defeat of Soviet Union in Afganistan that we crowed over in 1991 is really a long unfolding diseaster that will be with us for decades to come.
Aren't the americans doing the exact same thing again? except now they are arming the enemies of the taliban and al-quaeda
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