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Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
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Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
Obama makes even more liberals angry... again. Sad
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RE: Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
You mean people actually expected him to close it? And here I thought I was supposed to be the optimistic one... Sleepy
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RE: Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
From the article you posted, it seems like Congress is to blame for blocking the trials on mainland America in the first place.
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(March 7, 2011 at 11:40 pm)Tiberius Wrote: From the article you posted, it seems like Congress is to blame for blocking the trials on mainland America in the first place.

Silly american congress, can't deal with the fact that criminals at least deserve a fair trial
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RE: Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
I'm not a fan of President-blaming. Modern presidents are the scapegoats of the media. I'm sorry to say it, but if you are disappointed that a president isn't keeping his promises, you haven't been paying attention. This isn't a monarchy. I would say the candidates are at fault for making promises before they're elected, knowing that this isn't a monarchy and they can't just change whatever they want, but people who believe those promises are to blame. If more people ignored promises and looked more at facts, experience and track records, candidates would eventually have to come up with a new strategy. /end rant

It was unrealistic to assume that he could do anything about that mess of a prison. There is a lot of fear involved with trying terrorists on American soil. Fuck, a trial like that is a suicide bomber target if I have ever seen one. That isn't to say that we shouldn't try terrorists here. It's just a scary subject really. Now, if they could maybe run Guantanamo a little better, this wouldn't be such an issue. It doesn't need to be closed. That was a promise obviously aimed at garnering votes as it went far beyond what is actually necessary. He should have promised fair trials and sentences, not that the promise would have meant anything.
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(March 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: You mean people actually expected him to close it? And here I thought I was supposed to be the optimistic one... Sleepy

Gee, you're how old?

I was over 40, before I developed such a cynical world view--and that's because I'm an Aussie. One of our more attractive national traits is a healthy contempt for politicians,clergy,lawyers ,journalists and other members of the criminal bourgeoisie.

As an outsider, I thought I had Obama's number during the election campaign.IE all sizzle and no steak. That if elected, it would be business as usual.I was right.Thinking

Of course the US isn't a monarchy.However, during that billion dollar campaign those running for office and those supporting them behaved as if it is,making promises a president could not keep. A president actually has very little power and needs the support of congress and the Senate to govern.Obama has neither, and is consequently a lame duck.
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RE: Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
(March 8, 2011 at 4:50 am)padraic Wrote:
(March 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: You mean people actually expected him to close it? And here I thought I was supposed to be the optimistic one... Sleepy

Gee, you're how old?

I was going to answer that in several ways, but a question gripped me. Just where did the idea that it is rude to inquire a woman's age come from? 0.o

The idea is so blatantly crazy... it has to be british Dodgy

Quote:I was over 40, before I developed such a cynical world view--and that's because I'm an Aussie. One of our more attractive national traits is a healthy contempt for politicians,clergy,lawyers ,journalists and other members of the criminal bourgeoisie.

I really must visit australia someday... i'll probably spend a short vacation there when I'm queen of all ^_^ Don't want to stick around too long when everyone has a healthy contempt for me ^_^

I bet if I read through my early posts here, I'll go: "was that me? Was i really that childish? I need more spaghetti to handle this!" Smile I don't deny that hanging around people much more experienced and wiser than myself probably changed me into this. That's right all of you are partly responsible for creating *this*, how do you feel now? Tiny Tiger

Quote:As an outsider, I thought I had Obama's number during the election campaign.IE all sizzle and no steak. That if elected, it would be business as usual.I was right.Thinking

Your mention of sizzling steak made me really hungry... i clearly would fail at going on a diet Smile

Quote:Of course the US isn't a monarchy.However, during that billion dollar campaign those running for office and those supporting them behaved as if it is,making promises a president could not keep. A president actually has very little power and needs the support of congress and the Senate to govern.Obama has neither, and is consequently a lame duck.

It was a billion dollar campaign?! TT__TT
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Okay, seriously... we spent 1 billion dollars choosing between our parrots? @_o
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At this point they could all be sentenced to "time served" and it would be justice.
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RE: Obama To Restart Guantanamo Bay Trials After Two-Year Ban
Obama was not put in office to change things, he was put there to keep them the same.
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