[Serious] Good People

[Peebothuhlu]

Also, you do acknowledge a 'Pristine' body's complete lack of innitial ability to combat the contracting of said virus, don't you?

I don't know what you mean by this question. Your body has a general innate immune system that provides some broad protection against any infection. But beyond that every pathogen you've ever encountered (and survived) activated the same steps in the adaptive immune system. So I agree with your statement in a very trivial sense.

But most pathogens (The virus type) a person may encounter are NOT completly novel, are they?

If you encounter an avian infulenze. Invariably you've already encountered a previous, not completly lethal type.

Plus, there's the whole "Mother's pasing on of antigens to their offdpring" thing happening as well.

How many chances have people had to previously contract and survive Covid19?

How about those stats and figures, by the way?

[John 6IX Breezy]

The risk of being struck by a falling space rock is also 'Not zero'.

Unlike vaccination, that is not a risk you can do anything about, is it?

[Peebothuhlu]

The risk of being struck by a falling space rock is also 'Not zero'.

Unlike vaccination, that is not a risk you can do anything about, is it?

But it IS a risk.
You CAN do something about it (Like not going outside. Live under a really thick roof.Etc)
Still not zero factor of being hit by a falling space rock. Look up the recent cases of people being either hit by falling spcae rocks or nearly so.

[John 6IX Breezy]

How many chances have people had to previously contract and survive Covid19?

They may not have had previous contact with SARS-CoV-2, but they have certainly had contact with other human coronaviruses. I haven't done any research on it (or know if it exists) but I wouldn't be surprised if exposure to other coronaviruses offers some protection against Covid.

[Peebothuhlu]

So.

Guesses now.

*Shrug*

What ever. You don't think people should be obligated to give a flying fek about others.

(Yah, I'm being hyperbolic and possibly even vitriolic atm).

You do you. With that sort of behaviour I'm beginning to thin America deserves all the guns and freedoms it can take.

I'm out.

[John 6IX Breezy]

Okay, well if you don't like guesses, here's a more reliable answer:

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6512/89.full

[Peebothuhlu]

"Some people luck out and have things in their immune system that gives them a possible edge in not dying upon contracting Covid19"

Some people luck out and happen to live under roofs that protect them from falling space rocks as well.

I just can not get my head around the idea of some one not wanting to help their fellow peoples by slowing/limiting the spread of a lethal diseas.

[Foxaèr]

[Belacqua]

I just can not get my head around the idea of some one not wanting to help their fellow peoples by slowing/limiting the spread of a lethal diseas.

At some point, if you're interested, you could address the questions in the OP. The issue isn't whether you personally can get your head around it, but the moral issue of whether everyone should be made to do it. 

The OP contained the sentence:

This thread isn't about vaccines

But you decided to make it about vaccines.

The question originally asked was this:

You are an evil person if you do not make sacrifices for the greater good. [...] It is something like forced kindness, perhaps to the exclusion of personal safety and autonomy.

The fact that you personally find it the right thing to do is unsurprising. The issue is what we should require of people who don't. Is "forced kindness" a reasonable thing?

The OP gives this example also:

China's one child policy is perhaps another example. You sacrifice your fertility for the greater good of others.

Again, the issue is not whether you can get your head around this. The issue is whether this was a reasonable thing for the Chinese government to do. If there are tangible utilitarian ends, to what extent is social pressure or governmental command justified. Is requiring vaccine shots for participation in normal life something that we have the right to demand (regardless of whether personally we think such shots are good)? Is demanding such shots substantially different from a one-child policy, from a moral point of view? 

If you want to get back on topic you could.

[The Grand Nudger]

There have always been people who didn't believe in care or kindness. I've been saying this for awhile about the whole covid issue. It's not that the malcontents don't believe in medicine or viruses or masks, they don't believe in giving a shit about other people.

There's not actually any such thing as forcing people to give a shit, or be kind, though. They can be forced not to be a health risk, and that's about as far as our abilities go.