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Adulterous woman
#71
RE: Adulterous woman
Well I know why he didn't. It's just glaring that he didn't within the context of the mythology.

The bit with the Pharisees calling him "Master" is hilarious though.
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#72
RE: Adulterous woman
(June 24, 2021 at 8:56 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Well I know why he didn't. It's just glaring that he didn't within the context of the mythology.

The bit with the Pharisees calling him "Master" is hilarious though.
I suspect they called him "Rabbi" in the original and the translation probably went out of their way to de-Judeify Jesus.
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#73
RE: Adulterous woman
(June 24, 2021 at 12:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 24, 2021 at 11:06 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: The answer is pretty simple really, they weren't acting in accordance to Mosaic law since it clearly states that BOTH the man and woman were to be stoned.

“If a man is found lying with a woman married to a husband, then both of them shall die—the man that lay with the woman, and the woman; so you shall put away the evil from Israel. - Deuteronomy 22:22

Since they stated they caught the woman in the act, where was the man?

That is one of the problems of the story, which are indicators that the story never happened. The fact that there is no man is equally nonsensical as people listening to Jesus on these matters. Like, if they were obviously not acting in accordance to Mosaic law, why wouldn't Jesus notice it and point it out?

Who says he didn't? The bible says he stooped down and began to write in the dirt with his finger... doesn't say what he wrote. It could've been the law for all we know.
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#74
RE: Adulterous woman
Its whatever it needs to be for a cultist to maintain whatever belief they hold. Truly brilliant narrative - not entirely unlike keeping the monster off scene. Lets you fill in the blanks.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#75
RE: Adulterous woman
(June 24, 2021 at 11:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Its whatever it needs to be for a cultist to maintain whatever belief they hold. Truly brilliant narrative - not entirely unlike keeping the monster off scene. Lets you fill in the blanks.

And I think Marty did a good job of filling those blanks in when he adapted that scene for The Last Temptation of Christ. Or maybe that was Kazantzakis.


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#76
RE: Adulterous woman
It's a good take, juxtapose it against the sorry state of christian affairs. None of them seem to be concerned that their god will strike them down. Like they don't believe in their own bullshit, or something.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#77
RE: Adulterous woman
(June 23, 2021 at 6:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There's no one in your hell but you, Drich.  No dummies to drag out, and no one who would go with you if there were.  

You have a messiah complex.  It's so ridiculous and well progressed that your bans for flagrant rule abuse turn into messages from god.  You don't work here, you fucking loon, you inflict yourself upon people here.  You are neither capable of nor responsible for saving anyone.  You have no mission, these are just the self aggrandizing ideations of an unwell person.

not so much as a belief i am destined to save people but rather it is something i do here in the sim world. i 'saved' my mom and sisters from a monster. i help to 'save' my wife from a 10+ year heroin addiction, I spent 20 years in the inner-city serving by providing food, benolevance, sunday school transportation needs, sunday school, and even took my vacations providing a summer camp for those kids. worked with college age and older signle adults who were hopelessly single. talk them out to come out of their clam shell and date. at least a dozen marriages came out of that. including my own. and even now i hire convicted felons as employees. from literal bank robbers (two of them/two seperate states) to drug traffickers to people who killed others and got off easy (10 years) because the other guy was much worse. not to mention working with fresh outta school kids to help teach them work ethic and a trade. not to mention dozens if not hundreds of little things for complete strangers... (bus ticket 'back home' for someone stranded, bring people a months worth of food every month till they didn't need it anymore. ect)


you looking through angry at god lenses may think i do this because i think i am a savior, I don't. I do these things because i chose to serve my savior and these are the things he'd have me do. and i do them because the means and opportunity allow them, and i stop when the resources do or i no longer have means and or opportunity. Those are the things God controls. IE if i have these things here i serve God here. if i don't... I simply move on and serve somewhere else.

if serving others, in order to help them out on their own personal journey through this life makes me unwell, then i want no part of how you define a well balanced person. because to me those who receive help but in return can not offer it are monsters, and i do not want to have such a hard heart that i seem to be 'well' in the eyes of monstrous people who one consume what suits them and shat on, rather than give back to others..

(June 23, 2021 at 8:12 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Sure, Drich is a bit nuts, but if he weren't here, who would we have to call names to feel smug about ourselves?

Only partly kidding.  I don't participate in the pile-on, despite not agreeing with almost anything Drich says.

And Drich, you can't save our souls for bible god.  Neither thing exists.

is sim theory possible?

elon musk explains it here.. very interesting if you know what it is:




(June 24, 2021 at 2:07 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(June 21, 2021 at 4:14 pm)Drich Wrote: even more luckily-er.. i dont care about what you don't give a shite about.

oh and btw i do get what your avatar represents, but obvi, not to degree you have, as you clearly found your own meaning. whatever snowflake reason you chose to have Baruch Spinoza im sure it is to meant to display how pompous and smart you think yourself to be allowing you to make one or two line comments but to instill if bothered you could unleashe hell on a stupid person.. 

like i said before.. kinda meh-ed by the avatar. (as you fall into a common better than thou stereotype

That's cool, man. You don't have to give a shit about my avatar. You can be "meh-ed" by it. What I said before was more about opining about things without having sufficient knowledge.

I don't get the snowflake thing, though.

Truth be told, Spinoza was a person of extraordinary character, and I strive to be as sagely and noble as he was. That's what I meant about you not knowing shit about what he represents...

but what is character without the frame work of the society who defines it? George Washington and 
Thomas Jefferson were also said to have character beyond reproach, yet today outside the frame work of their society they would be shot for hate crimes sex trafficking and a dozen other near treasonous crimes.. yet in their time.. they were not only heros but instrumental in the establishment of this country. and these same men would not be fit to serve their jail time in a normal jail cell, were moral heros based off who and what society was.

just like your hero is a fish out of his time. who should have absolutely no bearing on this subject.

the fact you identify with a weirdo from the 16th century who's key attributes are only known to historians and cult followers is what make you 'different' or a snow flake. or so you would think.. the truth is, when ever a soft minds are exposed to greater men and how they think they want to adopt their monicor as a 'kilroy was here" badge showing other softer minded people how far you have gone in your studies. which is the reason for the meh... and the one liners you tend to fire back.

So again you hide behind 'established/ancient knowledge' to hide your lack of it. (that' why douche bags quote men who came before) as they typically are not smart enough to think their way out of a wet sack so they used well worn quotes from others to hide this fact. it is a way of saying something without having to speak.

kinda how you been throwing off topic jabs, trying to bring the subject matter into your wheel house and this old nobody who has nothing to do with the op.

(June 24, 2021 at 10:03 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(June 24, 2021 at 12:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That is one of the problems of the story, which are indicators that the story never happened. The fact that there is no man is equally nonsensical as people listening to Jesus on these matters. Like, if they were obviously not acting in accordance to Mosaic law, why wouldn't Jesus notice it and point it out?

Who says he didn't? The bible says he stooped down and began to write in the dirt with his finger... doesn't say what he wrote. It could've been the law for all we know.

we know what he wrote based on the reason given, as to why the pharisees left from the oldest to the youngest verse 9.. they were convicted by their own conscience. how can one be convicted by his conscience if it was not burdened with sin? if this is the case then the only communication of sin or the reminded of sin they could have possible have is what Jesus wrote on the ground. i may have been the laws, but the laws they specifically broke because their conscious convicted them to leave lest they too be exposed.
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#78
RE: Adulterous woman
No one there, but you. You've never in your life saved anyone from anything.

To me, this is just amusing, for you, it's tragic - because you genuinely believe. You are unwell for how you represent yourself and your god here, not for any of the concern troll bullshit you might retreat to when the god claim fails....and I do think that if you were the person you represent yourself to be here, you'd be locked up. You describe a degenerate, and then make the degenerates plea to join their cause.

Not interested. I believe that your degenerate cause is real. I see it working all day every day in the real world. I believe, even, that your degenerate god is as real as you imagine it to be. If that's what makes you move in the world, it's as real a thing as any. You've wasted your time, unaware of the argument you would need to have - constitutionally incapable of even having that argument...to begin with.

A bad person cannot convince me to join their assholes cult regardless of whether their assholes god is really real. I don't care. It's irrelevant. Now dust off your feet and leave, or stop threatening us with a good time.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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