Religious excuses for negligence removed!

[Captain Scarlet]

I would say action trumps belief.. regardless of it's positive or negative social impact. When religious beliefs are used to affect government or social structure from a top down method, I feel it's incorrect. Changing society's concensus which then affects government is one think but government should have no control over belief, only when that belief moves to action. I hate politics.. I must be very tired..

I would agree in a very real and practical sense. But if you really believe, then this is not necessarily true. For example we are told Jesus treated people (who possibly had a mental or even physical condition, which affected behaviour) for demonic posession. Nowadays that would be regarded as crackpot...but if you really believe why would that be the case?

[Minimalist]

Yes Min I agree but it's only a short jump to the next step.

Good. Because given a chance nuts like you would be sacrificing virgins.

[Nitsuj]

BUT NOW GOD CAN'T HEAL OUR CHILDREN!!!

Wow. At least people are starting to have some sense now.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

BUT NOW GOD CAN'T HEAL OUR CHILDREN!!!

Wow. At least people are starting to have some sense now.

This seems relevant-ish:

A Sydney homoeopath and his wife have lost an appeal against their manslaughter conviction for failing to obtain proper medical help for their baby.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

[Zenith]

Epic win!

"The Oregon House approved a bill Thursday that would remove legal protection for parents who choose faith healing over medical intervention when treating their children.

The bill passed unanimously, though two Republican representatives raised concerns that the legislation was taking the issue away from juries and sending the state down a slippery slope."

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index..._exce.html

this is not faith, this is idiocy. Compare it to the following scenario, with the premise that God exists:
a religious man is on an island with a volcanic mountain. The volcanic mountain starts to erupt, and the religious man prays to God for help. Finally, after many hours of fear and waiting for something, a helicopter appears, draws near, and the men inside it say to the religious man: "we've come to rescue you, come!" but the religious man answers: "no, I'll wait for a miracle!". When it might have been possible that God's involvement caused the people of the helicopter to find him. But you know, people want fancy miracles...

The idea is: Whether God exists or not and whether one believes that God exists or not, a man should do all it's possible, rather than waiting for fancy miracles (which people want for entertainment, anyway).