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lucky underwear vs faith
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RE: lucky underwear vs faith
(January 25, 2009 at 7:20 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:
(January 25, 2009 at 7:13 pm)WWLD Wrote: But whats the difference between hoping the scarf will bring him luck and the other guy hoping that God will save him?

There isn't a difference, its both the same.

i guess so Thinking
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RE: lucky underwear vs faith
I guess the difference would be that, the man does not beleive the scarf to be actively aware of anything. It's just good luck that might help.

The guy hoping god will save him believes there is an actual intelligence that wants him to succeed, that can look at the situation and actively make changes to suit it's plan.
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RE: lucky underwear vs faith
(January 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm)Demonaura Wrote: I guess the difference would be that, the man does not beleive the scarf to be actively aware of anything. It's just good luck that might help.

The guy hoping god will save him believes there is an actual intelligence that wants him to succeed, that can look at the situation and actively make changes to suit it's plan.

that's a good way to put it.
I agree with leo-rcc too. they are both silly
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RE: lucky underwear vs faith
I think Shermer has it here ... as I recall he said clever people believe stupid things and can defend them in various clever ways. So if you believe that atheism tends to be the result of a more educated /intelligent outlook (as I do) then I'd say there's a tendency to reject other kinds of silliness too but it's not a rule and in no way does being an atheist mean you gotta have other sensible views. I've met so many people who are evangelistic (just like theists) in other subjects too and I'm sure they're thought the same of me.

In essence I'm with Luke ... it's just a matter of degree.

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RE: lucky underwear vs faith
(January 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm)Demonaura Wrote: I guess the difference would be that, the man does not beleive the scarf to be actively aware of anything. It's just good luck that might help.

The guy hoping god will save him believes there is an actual intelligence that wants him to succeed, that can look at the situation and actively make changes to suit it's plan.

Exactly!
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