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Benevolent Creator God?
RE: Benevolent Creator God?
Doesn't seem to be much of a deity, then.
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RE: Benevolent Creator God?
Think of it this way.......God is the manager of some business, and He gets a lot of written requests, made by people who want Him to do certain things. Some requests would be easy to fulfill, while others would be more difficult. But since He is God, He isn't obligated to fulfill any of the requests, let alone the more difficult ones. But He would still like to answer some of the requests, so naturally, He chooses the easier ones, and ignores the more difficult ones. I would do the same thing. Why drive yourself up a wall trying to make people happy if you don't have to?
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(October 2, 2021 at 10:10 am)Ahriman Wrote: Silly prayers get answered far more often than more serious prayers, because God finds the silly prayers more manageable. In other words, closer to his power level.

Poe’s Law is real.
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(October 2, 2021 at 5:49 am)Ahriman Wrote: God isn't really "benevolent", just powerful, with a strong preference for order. If you're familiar with the D&D alignment system, God would be Lawful Neutral. He doesn't prefer good over evil, or evil over good. He listens to the prayers of good and evil people alike, and answers them according to how much the person deserves to have his/her prayer(s) answered.

What is it that would make one person deserving of having their prayers answered and another not deserving?
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The incompetent god of minimum effort, doing as little as it can to avoid the painful truth that there's much it can't.

Doesn't sound like it's an issue of rights at all, you just don't think god can bring their kids back. Neither do I. He can, however, steal some candy for you. Allegedly.
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(October 2, 2021 at 10:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The incompetent god of minimum effort, doing as little as it can to avoid the painful truth that there's much it can't.

Doesn't sound like it's an issue of rights at all, you just don't think god can bring their kids back.  Neither do I.   He can, however, steal some candy for you.  Allegedly.
In a manner of speaking, yes, that's how it works.
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RE: Benevolent Creator God?
(October 2, 2021 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 2, 2021 at 8:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yours, maybe, but not mine.  Add supernatural favoritism to the list, I guess?
He knows you don't believe in Him, which is His justification for not answering your prayers.

In what way is that a justification? Gravity works whether I believe in it or not. Why does God need me to believe in him to answer my prayers? Is this like the shyness effect in parapsychology?
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(October 2, 2021 at 10:42 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(October 2, 2021 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote: He knows you don't believe in Him, which is His justification for not answering your prayers.

In what way is that a justification?  Gravity works whether I believe in it or not.  Why does God need me to believe in him to answer my prayers?  Is this like the shyness effect in parapsychology?
"Gravity" and "God's Grace" are completely different things. And as Nudger pointed out, people who don't believe in God probably wouldn't be praying to Him in the first place.
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(October 2, 2021 at 10:48 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 2, 2021 at 10:42 am)Angrboda Wrote: In what way is that a justification?  Gravity works whether I believe in it or not.  Why does God need me to believe in him to answer my prayers?  Is this like the shyness effect in parapsychology?
"Gravity" and "God's Grace" are completely different things. And as Nudger pointed out, people who don't believe in God probably wouldn't be praying to Him in the first place.

That's not an answer. Plenty of people who don't believe pray for things when they get desperate. You haven't given a reason why God shouldn't answer their prayers.

Nor did you answer what makes one person's prayer deserving of being answered and another person's not deserving.

My suspicion is that you don't know. You just say shit that sounds good to you without thinking it through.
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(October 2, 2021 at 10:51 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(October 2, 2021 at 10:48 am)Ahriman Wrote: "Gravity" and "God's Grace" are completely different things. And as Nudger pointed out, people who don't believe in God probably wouldn't be praying to Him in the first place.

That's not an answer.  Plenty of people who don't believe pray for things when they get desperate.  You haven't given a reason why God shouldn't answer their prayers.

Nor did you answer what makes one person's prayer deserving of being answered and another person's not deserving.

My suspicion is that you don't know.  You just say shit that sounds good to you without thinking it through.
God doesn't answer desperate prayers, it's beneath Him. What those desperate people are doing, is like only hitting up an ugly girl when you need sex and can't get a girl you actually want. God is very prideful, He won't allow Himself to be treated like that ugly girl.
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