My problem with the covid vaccine

[vulcanlogician]

The vaccine should be a choice for the person with the advise of their physician... The government are like Nazis to interfere with that.

THAT should have been your OP. Not some possibly-fabricated anecdote about you and your "hands tied behind my back" physician.

Additionally, doctors are educated on how not to argue with their patients. It's quite possible that your physician is simply putting that training into practice. A doctor saying, "Look, according to [regulation] I can't exempt you from vaccination," is his way of dealing with a conspiracy theorist who OBVIOUSLY has issues with it.

(Not saying that's what's going on, but it is something worth considering.)

Its unethical, immoral, unlawful and criminal... You would agree if you were in my position instead of resorting to false accusations and insults...
There are many more people in my situation...

Pro-vaxxers have no morals at all... They just want to stick everyone regardless of their health status or advise from their doctor... LoL...

Agreed that the insults don't further the conversation, but where do you get the idea that "pro-vaxxers" have no morals? I can think of a plentitude of moral reasons why someone would SUPPORT the vaccine being administered. In fact, I can't think of a single reason to support it that isn't based in morality at its foundation.

[Ronaldo]

@vulcanlogician

The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors... Where is the morality in that?

And if you want to dismiss my personal situation then fine...
Bottom line is that the government should never interfere with the sanctity of the doctor/patient relationship

Best advise iv received so far is to contact my local member for parliament...
If this was happening to you i would bet you wouldn't be too happy about it either

[The Architect Of Fate]

The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors... Where is the morality in that?

And if you want to dismiss my personal situation then fine...
Bottom line is that the government should never interfere with the sanctity of the doctor/ patient relationship

Lunatic waffle continues

[vulcanlogician]

@vulcanlogician

The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors... Where is the morality in that?

And if you want to dismiss my personal situation then fine...
Bottom line is that the government should never interfere with the sanctity of the doctor/ patient relationship

Didn't mean to dismiss your situation. My apologies. I'm just taking into account that you DO have an agenda, and I don't know you from Adam. Thus, I'm careful in accepting whatever flies out of your mouth. Credulity is scarce on an atheist forum, after all. That being said... sure. Everything you said might be true. Let's not dwell on that.

You say: "The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors" that's a mischaracterization of those who support vaccination. A more obvious take on it is: "People who support vaccination do so because they want people to be safer." I mean, duh. Why ELSE would anyone support vaccination? And wanting people to be safe is a MORAL reason.

[Ronaldo]

This is what the doctors are afraid of...

https://www.smh.com.au/national/doctors-...579dk.html

They have strict directives from the government and cannot give their professional opinion if it contradicts them...
How is this right? A doctor advises no but the government says yes... How is this acceptable??? Anyone

[The Architect Of Fate]

Yeah how dare they go after doctors for spreading vaccine misinformation 

[Ronaldo]

@vulcanlogician

The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors... Where is the morality in that?

And if you want to dismiss my personal situation then fine...
Bottom line is that the government should never interfere with the sanctity of the doctor/ patient relationship

Didn't mean to dismiss your situation. My apologies. I'm just taking into account that you DO have an agenda, and I don't know you from Adam. Thus, I'm careful in accepting whatever flies out of your mouth. Credulity is scarce on an atheist forum, after all. That being said... sure. Everything you said might be true. Let's not dwell on that.

You say: "The pro vaxer wants to jab us all against the advise of our doctors" that's a mischaracterization of those who support vaccination. A more obvious take on it is: "People who support vaccination do so because they want people to be safer." I mean, duh. Why ELSE would anyone support vaccination? And wanting people to be safe is a MORAL reason.

People who support forced vaccines against the advise of their doctor are immoral... True? How can they possibly be moral?

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I repeat... Forcing vaccines against the advise of the doctor is unethical, immoral, unlawful and criminal...
No one has made a valid argument against that

[The Architect Of Fate]

Wafflemania 

[vulcanlogician]

This is what the doctors are afraid of...

https://www.smh.com.au/national/doctors-...579dk.html

They have strict directives from the government and cannot give their professional opinion if it contradicts them...
How is this right? A doctor advises no but the government says yes... How is this acceptable??? Anyone

The national medical boards and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulatory Agency (AHPRA) released a joint directive warning healthcare practitioners that they risk regulatory action if they spout false or deceptive misinformation to patients or on social media that could undermine the national vaccination program as the AstraZeneca vaccine rollout begins.

(my emphasis)

Yeah, doctors aren't allowed to pass along untrue or unfounded information. They are LICENCED professionals. And they must operate within their license. They are not allowed to do MANY things. I used to be a licensed massage therapist. And if I ever told one of my clients to take any drug, even aspirin, I could lose my license. 

If these doctors really oppose vaccination, they need to organize politically or conduct medical studies, etc. 

But giving patients bad information/advice can result in revocation of their license. IT WAS LIKE THAT BEFORE COVID.

[brewer]

The vaccine should be a choice for the person with the advise of their physician... The government are like Nazis to interfere with that.
Its unethical, immoral, unlawful and criminal... You would agree if you were in my position instead of resorting to false accusations and insults...
There are many more people in my situation...

Pro-vaxxers have no morals at all... They just want to stick everyone regardless of their health status or advise from their doctor... LoL...
The situation im in is fucked up and people would be just as displeased if they were the ones in it

Tell us what exactly, specifically your "my situation" is? What is this vague "health status" you refer to?

If you don't want to get vaccinated then I suggest you have a covid-19 party and intentionally infect yourself, just stay from people for a minimum of 3 weeks after. But then, you might get the opportunity to stay away from people for life.