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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 3:42 pm
How does Marxism promise a fairy tale? Is the idea of workers owning their own livelihood really that far fetched? In reality, we have miniature Marxism all over the place in the form of small businesses. If you have a business with, say, a dozen people and all are invested, that's a Marxist reality. How is that a fairy tale? There are also ESOP companies but I've never been a part of one so I don't know how they work. But those are somewhat close to Marxist in nature. It's the idea that you aren't just a paid hand, but rather a full owner in the work that you do. For whatever reason, it just doesn't scale.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 3:45 pm
(August 26, 2021 at 3:03 pm)Spongebob Wrote: (August 26, 2021 at 2:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I would rather be an enlightened simpleton, than a rational genius.
The first is a contradiction in terms. To be enlightened is to know and understand things.
Quote:What's the point of being "smart" if you're not going to be happy?
That's a false dichotomy. No, it isn't a contradiction. Enlightenment refers to a high level of natural wisdom. Being rational, means that you know and understand something well enough to provide a scientific explanation for it. Enlightenment refers to something that is innate, while rationality refers to something that is learned.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 3:48 pm
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Quote:Marxism and Christianity are very similar insomuch that they both promise people a fairytale society,
Marx never promised any such thing he only said he believed his system would create a more egalitarian and he was a staunch critic of utopianism
Quote: but with the real intention of manipulating them by a small group of rulers.
Marx had no such intention and was a harsh critic of people who tried to use his idea's for their own agenda's
Quote:With both originators not being adherents of their ideology.
Marx never lived in contradiction with his own ideas.
Quote:The only difference is that the creators of Christianity added supernatural powers to Jesus for people to believe in it more fanatically.
There is no comparison
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 3:49 pm
Rationality is not scientific pedigree is not innate knowledge is not learned behavior. Marshal your thoughts, exercise some discipline - or resolve yourself to demonstrable internal weakness?
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 4:19 pm
(August 26, 2021 at 3:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Rationality is not scientific pedigree is not innate knowledge is not learned behavior. Marshal your thoughts, exercise some discipline - or resolve yourself to demonstrable internal weakness? I don't give a fuck about being seen as weak. Power games are for petty people. I simply walk my walk, and if others follow, that's great, and anyone who has a problem with this, can get fucked.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 5:11 pm
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(August 26, 2021 at 3:45 pm)Ahriman Wrote: No, it isn't a contradiction. Enlightenment refers to a high level of natural wisdom. Being rational, means that you know and understand something well enough to provide a scientific explanation for it. Enlightenment refers to something that is innate, while rationality refers to something that is learned.
You must be homeschooled. You stated a false dichotomy about being simple and blissful or rational genius. You are suggesting one must be one or the other. That is not true.
Definition of Enlightened (Meriam Webster) - freed from ignorance and misinformation. (That's what one gets when one learns things. Education)
Definition of rational (same) - having reason or understanding
Wisdom is about having good judgement or insight. I've always had more difficulty explaining wisdom. But it is not enlightenment.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 5:47 pm
(August 26, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Spongebob Wrote: (August 26, 2021 at 3:45 pm)Ahriman Wrote: No, it isn't a contradiction. Enlightenment refers to a high level of natural wisdom. Being rational, means that you know and understand something well enough to provide a scientific explanation for it. Enlightenment refers to something that is innate, while rationality refers to something that is learned.
You must be homeschooled. You stated a false dichotomy about being simple and blissful or rational genius. You are suggesting one must be one or the other. That is not true.
Definition of Enlightened (Meriam Webster) - freed from ignorance and misinformation. (That's what one gets when one learns things. Education)
Definition of rational (same) - having reason or understanding
Wisdom is about having good judgement or insight. I've always had more difficulty explaining wisdom. But it is not enlightenment. I was raised Catholic. We didn't even learn math at my school. But I still think I'm right about how I defined those words.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 5:50 pm
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Quote:I don't give a fuck about being seen as weak.
No one said anything about being seen as weak but it none the less weakness and a destructive one at that
Quote: Power games are for petty people.
He said nothing about power
Quote: I simply walk my walk, and if others follow, that's great, and anyone who has a problem with this, can get fucked.
You clearly didn't read his post or have no understanding of it
Quote:I was raised Catholic. We didn't even learn math at my school. But I still think I'm right about how I defined those words.
Then your education was woefully poor
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 5:57 pm
Quote: Then your education was woefully poor
I had a lot of fun, and I am literate, so that's a plus.
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RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 26, 2021 at 6:04 pm
Quote:I had a lot of fun, and I am literate, so that's a plus.
Irrelevant you were clearly underserved in various subjects.
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