Stupid things religious people say

[Fake Messiah]

Catholic priests are doing their best to evangelize tribes in South Africa, but they rudely still practice their previous religion. That is a huge problem because by doing that they are contacting some dubious spirits, and since we live in a PC culture, priests are not allowed to tell these poor Africans that they are contacting demons.

What are we going to do about this terrible problem of people in Africa practicing religion of their ancestors instead of the one being forced on them by European and American colonists?

Priest faces ancestral veneration in rural South Africa

Father Michael Wojciechowski is a Polish missionary priest of the Koinonia John the Baptist community, currently serving in rural South Africa.

Overall, only about 6% of South Africa’s population is Catholic. In our area, however, it’s a bit higher — around 10% to 15%. That’s because the region was more actively evangelized in the past, thanks to the work of Austrian and German Trappist monks.

That said, there are still a lot of traditional beliefs and practices, even among Christians. Many Catholics, for example, still visit local shamans.

The issue is that culture is often mixed with the occult, and that's a huge problem. Very few people make a clear distinction between the two. Even among Christians — even pastors — it's hard to tell where culture ends and the occult begins. This is often tied to invoking spirits, which they believe are their ancestors. The discernment of spirits is very needed.

There are certainly spirits — people will tell you things they couldn’t possibly know by natural means. The actual question is, what kind of spirits are communicating with them? Is it the Holy Spirit? Angels? Saints? Souls? Or demons? If it’s supposed to be their ancestors, which ones? Are they from hell, purgatory, or heaven?

There are a lot of questions, but I don’t hear many people asking these. People just accept it because they don’t want to offend anyone or be politically incorrect.

That said, based on the fruit and the effects these spirits have on people - often separating them from the faith, especially during long initiation periods, and the fear they bring - I think, in some cases, it's demons we are talking about.

The South African bishops’ conference set up a commission to study this phenomenon, and I was invited to join it. It’s an important work. I’m actually doing research now, talking to local shamans, or Sangoma, and analyzing the initiation rites they go through, as well as the beliefs behind them.

After 15 years here, I have some experience. I’m also an exorcist for the diocese, so sometimes we deal directly with spirits and see the effects of spiritual attacks on people.

Most people believe these spirits are their ancestors, so we have to go through a process of discernment. But usually, people are not doing that. They just say “This is our culture,” and they continue consulting their shamans, invoking spirits, and following their instructions.

There’s a huge wave of [younger] people returning to these traditional practices. Many young people are becoming Sangoma — shamans.

They’re told they have a “calling,” and if they don’t answer it, they’ll get sick or even die.

This “calling” usually comes with sickness and visions of spirits — what they believe are their ancestors — summoning them to become a Sangoma. Often, they don’t want to do it, but they feel they have no choice. So, they go through the initiation process. It's very common — it’s not something rare or hidden.

I once asked one woman who was going through the initiation process if I could pray for her and bless her, but she refused. She said that if I did, she’d have to start her initiation all over again. So you have to ask: What kind of spirit is so disturbed by a priest’s blessing?

It’s a big problem here in South Africa, not just in KwaZulu-Natal province, but across the whole country.

That’s where we need to step in, to help people find freedom in Christ because many are afraid to speak up or challenge things for fear of being politically incorrect. Sometimes, we could end up accompanying people to hell with a smile because we’re afraid to seek for the truth and courageously speak it.

It's a big issue, and the Church is still confused. For years, Archbishop Buti Joseph Tlhagale of Johannesburg defended ancestral veneration, but recently he admitted that he was wrong. He said in an interview that “the ancestors are enemies of Christ.”

https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/where-c...the-occult

[Fake Messiah]

So the Black Christian women are discovering that the church tricked them into staying unmarried so that they can be exploited?

Christian women spend years praying and waiting for husbands who may never come. Is the Church to blame?

Single Christian women who want to be married to a fellow believer are being put in an impossible position. Many are told to wait and pray, but statistically speaking, when it comes to finding lasting love, they’re at a significant disadvantage.

In 2020, a book was written called Black Single Christian featuring 13 different contributors. One of the writers said that she’s angry at the Black Church because the Church sold them a lie.

The lie was that if you become the Proverbs 31 wife, keep yourself pure, pray, fast, stay in church, don’t get involved with anybody outside the church, then your Boaz will come along. This writer was now in their late 50s - no Boaz, no husband, no children. Yet their friends who left the church got married and had kids.

The writer said she was angry at the Church for failing to provide sufficient men for them to get married, because the ratio of men to women, especially amongst the Afro-Caribbean churches, is seven women to one man. The Church should have done more to get more men in, and, importantly, to empower the men so that they can be suitable husbands. Because even the few men that are in Church are not marriage material - financially, emotionally or spiritually.

The author had posted their book extract on Facebook, and it resulted in a big debate. There was a controversial US psychologist in the comments arguing that keeping Black women single is a deliberate decision, because it serves the purpose of the church. Black women are more educated than Black men. They earn more money and they’ve got more time and resources for the church when they’re single. Once they get married, they have less time and resources. So the church intentionally keeps itself feminine and does not attract men, because they want to keep women single. I’m like, hang on a minute! Is the church really somehow responsible for this?

It’s from that I wrote a play "Why Didn’t I Get Married?" which asks if we should hold the church responsible for the high levels of singleness. The play is a courtroom drama where we are asking the questions and putting all of the arguments out there.

https://www.premierchristianity.com/inte...11.article

[Fake Messiah]

What would you wish for?

A lightning-struck ‘miracle tree’ said to fulfill wishes is drawing devotees to a Bolivian cemetery

La Paz, Bolivia - Struck by lightning during a roaring thunderstorm 10 years ago, an ancient pine tree in Bolivia’s capital of La Paz is thriving.

Known as the “miracle tree,” this giant conifer now draws devotees from across the country to La Paz’s largest public cemetery, founded two centuries ago on a pre-Columbian burial plot. Pilgrims stream through the alleys bearing offerings – coins, flowers, sweets, handwritten disclosures of secret wishes – to stuff into bark crevices.

“People ask for love, work, health, children, even to bring back their lost pet,” explained Javier Cordero, who leads funeral prayers at the cemetery. “If the person comes with a lot of faith, the tree will fulfill their wishes.”

Some of the devotees were young, having recently discovered the story of the tree on TikTok.

Others were regulars, older Bolivians long convinced of the tree’s sacred powers, like 79-year-old prayer leader Ricardo Quispe, who was taking refuge beneath the tree’s sheltering limbs when lightning struck on that stormy afternoon a decade ago. He claims the lightning bolt also gave him psychic powers.

Far from pulverizing the tree, the rogue bolt of lightning left a scar on its trunk that now oozes aromatic resin. The towering tree in the La Paz cemetery now appears healthier than ever.

“I know people who have been healed from illnesses, they are the most devout,” Cordero said, touching the trunk of the miracle tree with a copper wire to demonstrate its special energetic charge. Within moments, the wire began to rotate in response.

“The lightning transmits the vital energy of the cosmos,” he said.

The belief in the tree’s powers keeps many of its worshippers coming back.

Tania Arce, 60, approached the miracle tree with her arms full of tantalizing chocolates and flowers.

“He likes sweets,” she said, speaking about the tree as if it were her son. “He fulfilled the favor I asked of him, but I haven’t stopped visiting.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/05/ameri...intl-latam

[Gwaithmir]

'God has chosen Donald Trump to save this once great nation.' - various MAGAts

Boru

Yeah, and I'm King Isildur! 

[Fake Messiah]

A priest in Ireland wants only Christian immigrants because only Christians are civilized.

And also, all these new people walking by his church but no one leaves any money are pissing him off.

Ireland is 'crammed': Priest says non-Christian migrants shouldn't enter country

A priest has called for the introduction of “discriminatory” immigration policies in Ireland, claiming that the country is “crammed” and non-Christian migrants should not be allowed to move here.

Fr Brendan Kilcoyne, who is a parish priest in Balla, Co Mayo, said immigration was being “badly managed” and the country was being “crammed” with people who had no sympathy for Irish culture.

“I am in favour of what I would openly call discriminatory immigration, and I mean discrimination in a positive, constructive sense,” said Fr Kilcoyne.

“If it were up to me, I would only permit Christian immigration into Europe… I would only permit Christian immigration into Ireland. I think you can justify that on any number of grounds.”

Fr Kilcoyne said the consequences of non-Christian immigration were “not an issue in Ireland yet” but claimed that whole sections of British cities had become “no-go areas” for the civil authorities.

This claim is widely regarded as a far-right myth, and featured in the manifesto of neo-Nazi terrorist and mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik. A British MP, Paul Scully, was criticised and forced to apologise for referring to such “no-go” zones last year.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irel...04066.html

[Paleophyte]

Give him 'discriminatory immigration" that only lets in Protestants.

[Fake Messiah]

The bride has been devirginized.

[Fake Messiah]

Pastor says vision told him Jesus will return to Earth this month

A South African pastor recently claimed that Jesus could be making a return on Sept. 23, with the Feast of Trumpets ringing in the Rapture and Judgment Day.

In a viral YouTube video, Pastor Joshua Mhlakela claims he saw Jesus in a divine vision returning to Earth during this year’s Rosh Hashanah — a date some Christians are already linking to prophecy.

“The rapture is upon us, whether you are ready or not,” Mhlakela said in a sit-down interview with CettwinzTV and said.

“I saw Jesus sitting on his throne, and I could hear him very loud and clear saying, ‘I am coming soon.’”

The pastor added, “He said to me on the 23rd and 24th of September 2025, ‘I will come back to the Earth.’”

Beneath the YouTube video, many commenters also seemed convinced that the pastor was onto something.

“My 10yr daughter dreamt of the rupture recently,” one wrote as another user added, “Wow, I can read people and Joshua is 100% telling the truth. I never even listen to videos claiming visions, but God told me to watch this.”

https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/lifestyle/...re-vision/

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Texas pastor warns white parents about Black people

A clip of a Texas pastor's racist remarks on a Christian podcast has gone viral after he told white parents to have "the talk" with their children about race, casting Black people as more dangerous than white people.

In the clip, Joel Webbon — an Austin-area pastor known in part for his alt-right beliefs — said white parents should steer their children away from certain places and people before he called a theoretical crowd of Black strangers "30 times" more dangerous than a crowd of white people.

"It is actually a failure of your parental duty — white parents, please hear me — if you teach your children growing up, if you lie to them, and say all people and all races of people in our country are the same," Webbon said in the podcast clip. "They are not. You are actually depriving your child of factual, truthful information that could save their life."

Webbon has previously suggested women shouldn't have the right to vote, when asked to envision a "Christian nation" during a 2023 podcast.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/ho...040587.php

[Alan V]

"I believe we're broken by sin upon birth." -- Charlie Kirk

[Fake Messiah]

Kevin and Sam Sorbo raised a real Christian who is a dumb, uneducated fuck.

Braeden Sorbo Declares That Women Should Not Have The Right To Vote

Braeden Sorbo is following in the footsteps of his parents, conservative actors and activists Kevin and Sam Sorbo, by seeking to establish a career as a right-wing commentator.

Sorbo is being heralded by Christian nationalist groups like the National Association of Christian Lawmakers and the Truth and Liberty Coalition as an important voice for and legitimate representative of young right-wing activists.

Richard Harris of the Truth and Liberty Commission conducted a recent podcast interview with Sorbo.

"I know more young women today who say they wish they didn't ever get the right to vote than I've ever talked to in my life," Sorbo said. "They go, 'Well, if I never had this, then everything throughout the history with abortion and feminism and all of these things wouldn't have taken place and so I would much rather give up my one right to vote if it meant 10,000 liberal women wouldn't be allowed to vote so that we could return our country to a better place.'"

"What we did was we tricked thousands and thousands and thousands of people into thinking that [patriarchy] was oppression and we're reaping what we sow," he continued. "You can look at everything that's going on—not even just in America, but in the West today—and we can see the decline, the moral degradation, and the societal downfall that is taking place, and we can go, 'This is bad objectively.'"

"Wow," replied Harris. "So, Braeden, are you saying women shouldn't have the right to vote?"

"Yes," Sorbo responded.

"My stance is a voting system based on Christian morals, which relates to married couples having one joint vote," Sorbo stated. "It's not, 'Oh, women shouldn't vote,' it's that women should vote with their husbands and husbands with their wives. It is this idea that we should be working together because what happened is when we pit the genders against each other, the battle of the sexes, we split everything apart. We took the children out of the home and put them in the government school systems. You put the wife against her husband and the husband against his wife and that is what led to the downfall of America."

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch...right-vote