Covid 19 conspiracies dump

[Jackalope]

Fit as a horse, really great NEIGHbor too.

[Angrboda]

Nay, nay.

[polymath257]

The worms will leave him alone....

[Fake Messiah]

My 6-Year-Old Son Died. Then the Anti-vaxxers Found Out

My 6-year-old boy died in January. We lost him after a household accident, one likely brought on by a rare cerebral-swelling condition.

But vaccine opponents on the internet, who somehow assumed that a COVID shot was responsible for my son’s death, thought my family’s pain was funny. “Lol. Yay for the jab. Right? Right?” wrote one person on Twitter. “Your decision to vaccinate your son resulted in his death,” wrote another. “This is all on YOU.” “Murder in the first.”

I’ve now received thousands of harassing posts. Some people emailed me at work.
To them, what happened to my son was not a tragedy. It was karma for suckered parents like me.

Although some abusive posts showed up on my public Facebook page, the problem started on Twitter—whose new CEO, Elon Musk, gutted the platform’s content-moderation team after taking over.

Accompanying the obituary was a picture of him showing off his new University of North Carolina basketball jersey. Strangers swiped the photo from Twitter and wrote vile things on it. They’d mined my tweets, especially ones where I had written about the public-health benefits of vaccination. Someone needed to make me pay for vaccinating my child, one person insinuated. Another said my other children would be next if they were vaccinated too.

A blogger mocked me for fleeing social media. Commenters joined in. My grief, their content. “Your one job as a parent was to protect your children,” wrote one person. “You failed miserably.”

I’m not the only parent being harassed in this way. Some of the trolls posted photos of other children, insinuating that they had died because of COVID vaccines. I feel for the grieving mothers and fathers who receive those messages.

My friends and I reported some of the worst posts to Facebook and Twitter. A few users were booted from Twitter. But in most cases, we got no response; in a few, we received tepid form messages.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...nt/673537/

[zebo-the-fat]

That is just disgusting

[Fake Messiah]

Anti-masker attempts to harass park ranger for wearing a mask, but then finds out he’s protecting his lungs from metal debris.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I always find it funny they try and come up with demeaning names for masks as if that's going to affect anyone's  use of a mask. I remember when the convoy Karens kept harassing people for wearing masks meanwhile they were wearing F&^& Trudeau everything and I gotta say it's all hideous looking. I'll take the mask at least it keeps my face warm.

[FlatAssembler]

Mislav Kolakušić (a Croatian politician, mostly left-wing, except for being a COVID skeptic) has stated multiple times that the only way one can legally claim what somebody died from is if an autopsy has been made. And, he argues, since almost no autopsies have been made on people who supposedly died from COVID-19 (according to him, only one has thus far been done in Croatia), making estimates about how many people died from COVID-19 is illegal. Is that true? I am not sure.
On one hand, how could a law making it illegal to speculate about causes of death exist? Wouldn't it be blatanly unconstitutional?
On the other hand, Mislav Kolakušić studied law. Is it likely that he is wrong about the matters of law? Perhaps a better question is whether it's likely that he is lying.

That's not to say I think official statistics are remotely accurate. Think about this: in almost all countries, the official estimate of how many people died from COVID-19 in 2021, when vaccines were available, is higher than the official estimate of how many people died from COVID-19 in 2020, when no vaccines were available. It seems to me there are only 2 explanations for that:
1. Vaccines are not only ineffective, they are counter-productive. (Which is arguably a conspiracy theory.)
2. The statistics are wildly inaccurate.
And it seems obvious what is more likely.

[Ravenshire]

It seems to me there are only 2 explanations for that:
1. Vaccines are not only ineffective, they are counter-productive. (Which is arguably a conspiracy theory.)
2. The statistics are wildly inaccurate.
And it seems obvious what is more likely.

False dichotomy.

It's quite possible that transmission outpaced vaccinations early on, especially in the US where Trump severely handicapped vaccination efforts by making it political.

Your false dichotomy doesn't stand the slightest scrutiny.

[The Grand Nudger]

Mislav Kolakušić (a Croatian politician, mostly left-wing, except for being a COVID skeptic) has stated multiple times that the only way one can legally claim what somebody died from is if an autopsy has been made. And, he argues, since almost no autopsies have been made on people who supposedly died from COVID-19 (according to him, only one has thus far been done in Croatia), making estimates about how many people died from COVID-19 is illegal. Is that true? I am not sure.
On one hand, how could a law making it illegal to speculate about causes of death exist? Wouldn't it be blatanly unconstitutional?
On the other hand, Mislav Kolakušić studied law. Is it likely that he is wrong about the matters of law? Perhaps a better question is whether it's likely that he is lying.

I'm not a croatian lawyer, but I can see that you're a croatian frozen peach enthusiast...and the answer to the question seems to be nestled in it.  There's a law about how a legal cause of death is established.  There would have to be..for there to be such a thing as a legal cause of death.  I doubt that it prevents speculation, as that would make every neighbor and poorly formed family member a criminal when they all wonder what finally killed ole Luko.  

I assume you have some sort of insurance market, and some sort of public health institute, and some sort of law enforcement administration?  That there's some way for an insurance company to decide that a person died of something they lied about on their policy?  That a person somehow got into some anthrax.  That a person was murdered?  If laws establishing legal causes of death were unconstitutional, that wouldn't be a problem with laws establishing a legal cause of death..it would be a rather idiotic problem with the specific constitution itself. 

As far as what's likely, there's no need to speculate.  You know that you're disseminating reich wing talking points, hence the need to qualify your chosen cutout nut as a leftist and vaguely wave in the direction of rights abrogation.  

That's not to say I think official statistics are remotely accurate. Think about this: in almost all countries, the official estimate of how many people died from COVID-19 in 2021, when vaccines were available, is higher than the official estimate of how many people died from COVID-19 in 2020, when no vaccines were available. It seems to me there are only 2 explanations for that:
1. Vaccines are not only ineffective, they are counter-productive. (Which is arguably a conspiracy theory.)
2. The statistics are wildly inaccurate.
And it seems obvious what is more likely.

Not in the US or Croatia.  The biggest spike in deaths were early on in both cases.  Let's take a hypothetical approach, though.  Let's imagine that this statement were true of either the us or of croatia.  I can think of some additional items to consider.  

3.  Building on 2, initial estimates were bad because, as you allude to throughout, bad stats.  They've since been revised by metrics like excess mortality to give a more accurate account of the spread and toll of a thing noone was looking for when it began, and would go on to actively hide or not report as it happened.  

4.  Building on 3, there's a spike in excess mortality due to the economic and sociological effects of covid, which now get's rolled up into covid stats, because of the lack of granularity in excess mortality numbers.  

If I sat here long enough I could come up with others, but they'd all be as counterfactual as your claim that deaths were higher in 2021 than in 2020, higher after vaccines in a given pop than before.  You know what I think you did?  I think you went looking for something to back up your desired conclusion and accidently swapped the detected covid cases for listed covid deaths.  I think that, because those are the numbers that actually went up, while the deaths went down.  Those numbers went up because we were looking harder, and, fwiw, that those numbers went up while the deaths went down is a pretty solid demonstration of the effectiveness of vaccines.

With respect to your one and two, the numbers say deaths went down and stats got better and literally none of this has anything to do with your freedom to speculate or the constitutionality of statutes establishing what counts as a legal cause of death. Some nutball narratives just aren't very mobile. You'll need better lines for this to look like anything other than some nut in nothereistan huffing american malcontents farts.