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Covid 19 conspiracies dump
RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
Ah so he's back to pushing Covid conspiracy nonsense.
"Change was inevitable"


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(April 27, 2023 at 8:58 pm)Helios Wrote: Ah so he's back to pushing Covid conspiracy nonsense.

I understand why the claim that vaccines are counter-productive or have some very common (on the order of 1/1000 people or more) and serious side-effect would be a conspiracy theory. The only way for something like that to stay undetected in the experiments is, well, if the experiments are fake. But I fail to see why would the claim that the number of people who died within a month of a positive COVID-19 test (or the excess mortality, or whichever method is used to estimate COVID-19 deaths in various countries) is not a good proxy of the COVID-19 deaths would be a conspiracy theory. Or why it would be a conspiracy theory to claim that making such estimates is the gray area of the law.
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Keep raving looney  Dodgy
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So the whole COVID was created to get Trump, but how did they get him when he supposedly won the election but Biden stole the results and all evidence of it is in Hunter Biden's laptop?


'They did it to get me out': Trump suggests COVID-19 was a Chinese plot to cost him the election

Former President Donald Trump on Sunday passively accused China of purposefully spreading COVID-19 into the United States to destroy his political career.

Trump suggested that the pandemic was Beijing retaliating against the tariffs that he imposed on Chinese goods and that China orchestrated the health crisis to ruin his chances in the 2020 election.

"You know, people said I was charging China so much money in tariffs, in taxes that a lot of people said they did it to get me out," Trump proclaimed. Those taxes cost American taxpayers $3 billion per month.

Trump then gloated that "We did great in that election. We did, I did much better in the second election than I did in the first."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2659934662/
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At the end of this video, dr. Moran claims that Moderna vaccination causes subclinical myocarditis in around 2-3% of vaccinated adolescents, and that that's between 20 and 50 times more common than COVID-19 does. Is that true?

As far as I understand it, the whole point of mRNA vaccines is to make such things (that a vaccine causes some side-effect more often than the virus itself does) theoretically impossible, unless we assume basic biochemistry is false. So, the dr. Moran's claim is even less plausible than vaccines causing autism, as vaccines causing autism would require almost everything we know about how brain works to be wrong, but basic biochemistry can stay correct.

But what's weird to me is that I don't see sources such as ScienceBasedMedicine refuting that claim. Why is that?

Of course, that's not the only controversial claim dr. Moran makes in that video (like claiming that an unvaccinated adolescent has only 1/300'000 chance of dying if he catches COVID, that would require the number of adolescents who died from COVID to be by orders of magnitude lower than the official statistics show, and that's very unlikely because causes of death are easily determined in that age group), but it's the most important one he makes there.
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(May 18, 2023 at 8:37 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: 1) At the end of this video, dr. Moran claims that Moderna vaccination causes subclinical myocarditis in around 2-3% of vaccinated adolescents, and that that's between 20 and 50 times more common than COVID-19 does. Is that true?

2) As far as I understand it, the whole point of mRNA vaccines is to make such things (that a vaccine causes some side-effect more often than the virus itself does) theoretically impossible, unless we assume basic biochemistry is false. So, the dr. Moran's claim is even less plausible than vaccines causing autism, as vaccines causing autism would require almost everything we know about how brain works to be wrong, but basic biochemistry can stay correct.

3) But what's weird to me is that I don't see sources such as ScienceBasedMedicine refuting that claim. Why is that?

4) Of course, that's not the only controversial claim dr. Moran makes in that video (like claiming that an unvaccinated adolescent has only 1/300'000 chance of dying if he catches COVID, that would require the number of adolescents who died from COVID to be by orders of magnitude lower than the official statistics show, and that's very unlikely because causes of death are easily determined in that age group), but it's the most important one he makes there.

Hello.

So interestingly, I can't (Quickly) find anything of substance on Dr Keith Moran MD, RCPSC, DABIM, RCS, NBE, other than... He is a 'Doctor'; of the "General Practitioner" variety. Nothing I can find indicates any specialised knowledge or study or understanding of 'Virology', beyond what said basic general practitioner of medicine would have.

To comment with (1). So one of the vaccines, Moderna, may cause an increase of 2-3% in 'Inflammation of the Heart'. Okay... what are the % of all the OTHER problems the C-Vid virus causes all throughout the body? You know, the lung damage? Encephalitis (Brain swelling)? Along with a myriad of other effects on the human body, this virus has been shown to do? Just focusing on one of the vaccines and just one, now seeming relatively small percentage about one particular problem seems... dubious.

To comment on (2). Vaccines are used to give the body a 'Heads up' for when it encounters a virus. Normally the human body has a whole raft of defences. Some are built in thanks to the survival of our ancestors. Others passed on from our parents (Breastfeeding, for example).
A vaccine isn't a fekking "Enterprise force field" suddenly popped up around the human body. Perhaps if you watch a few Kurzgesagt videos on what the immune system is you'd be nicely informed?

To comment on (3). So... wait? A board of Doctors should address one Doctor's claims? Shouldn't said Doctor be performing all the right clinical and virological studies to be able to generate the proper data to show thence they have any claims, to begin with? Oh, that's right. He's only an MD. He's not of the "Virologist" specialisation or any other type of medical specialist in the relevant field. So, he'd have to go back and get the proper accreditations first to do the proper lab work etc.

Finally, on to comment (4). Making a 'Youtube' video has as much weight (Hah!) as writing a book. Yes, great, now we've got his opinion on the matter. Fantastic. Where's the actual science? The actual virology understanding? The data that can be properly peer-reviewed? Oh, yeah, interesting. See point (3).

Again, receiving a vaccine is NOT some magic fekking bullet. It's something to help BOOST the body's abilities for when the virus gets into you. This, thanks to fekkers being all "MAH freedoms!" and not doing their due diligence in preventing its spread. Not doing their due diligence in minimizing how badly they are infected. Not doing their due diligence in lowering/restricting human mobility (You know, the actual VECTOR that's spreading the virus), need I go fekking on about how stupid people have been with this thing? Like, they've actively taken LESS options at spreading and instigated MORE problems than any other, (Supposedly) normal fekking virus. 

What's been amaze-balls (Australian technical term there) is the speed at which this vaccine has been 'Built' and thence industrially produced. All thanks to twenty-year-old, Nobel prize-winning research. Not some 'Suddenly delivered by aliens' type bull-sheet stuff.

I hope that short and succinct reply to your simple questions suffices. Angel

Cheers.
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It's a wonder there's anyone left for the vaccines to kill.
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(May 18, 2023 at 10:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a wonder there's anyone left for the vaccines to kill.

It killed me 2 years ago, but I got better!
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(May 18, 2023 at 11:31 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(May 18, 2023 at 10:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a wonder there's anyone left for the vaccines to kill.

It killed me 2 years ago, but I got better!

Look-it that! Why, it looks like you might even go for a walk!

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(May 18, 2023 at 10:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a wonder there's anyone left for the vaccines to kill.

The first shot killed me so hard I got four more.
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