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(December 2, 2021 at 1:24 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Fauci says again that he represents science, and that criticizing him is criticizing science itself. I'm afraid that's not how science works, Dr. Fauci.
The NIH admits gain of function research was funded, and he continues to deny this. He is a proven liar, many times over.
You’re adorable, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
December 4, 2021 at 3:28 am (This post was last modified: December 4, 2021 at 3:57 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
IA has to twist and turn to make stuff fit a bizarre(refuted) narrative
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
(December 4, 2021 at 3:28 am)Helios Wrote: IA has to twist and turn to make stuff fit a bizarre(refuted) narrative
Care to tell me how it's attacking science to give definitions directly from the NIH website?
Care to tell me how it's attacking science when Fauci says everyone needs to get vaccinated, and is criticized for his take because having immunity from getting the virus is likely better than the vaccines? Why don't you care about what the data has to say about this? Who's the one really pushing science aside here? It's you, my friend.
Also, Fauci recently said everyone needs to take these boosters, because as he puts it, "It's just looking at what I think are going to turn out to be the facts." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/podca...shots.html They're winging this as they go along, and science is about rigorous debate. Not orthodoxy and censoring and shutting debate down, especially in an unfolding situation like this. Scientific consensus in a developing situation is not the same as scientific consensus with years and years of hindsight either.
(December 4, 2021 at 9:36 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:
(December 4, 2021 at 3:28 am)Helios Wrote: IA has to twist and turn to make stuff fit a bizarre(refuted) narrative
Care to tell me how it's attacking science to give definitions directly from the NIH website?
Care to tell me how it's attacking science when Fauci says everyone needs to get vaccinated, and is criticized for his take because having immunity from getting the virus is likely better than the vaccines? Why don't you care about what the data has to say about this? Who's the one really pushing science aside here? It's you, my friend.
Also, Fauci recently said everyone needs to take these boosters, because as he puts it, "It's just looking at what I think are going to turn out to be the facts." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/podca...shots.html They're winging this as they go along, and science is about rigorous debate. Not orthodoxy and censoring and shutting debate down, especially in an unfolding situation like this. Scientific consensus in a developing situation is not the same as scientific consensus with years and years of hindsight either.
Everybody is winging it to a certain extent. This is a new virus and science has to learn as it goes along.
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
December 4, 2021 at 11:12 am (This post was last modified: December 4, 2021 at 11:13 am by brewer.)
AFAIC they're not 'winging it', I believe it's based on best evidence, changing evidence. I'll trust science and medicine every time over politics, lawyers, pseudoscience and fearmongering.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
(December 3, 2021 at 1:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:
I also found it shocking that Fauci said such a thing, and I don't blame you for questioning such an insane quote, but you know google exists and you might want to use that before going on the attack against me. I'm glad that we can at least agree that this would be some of the most clownish propaganda if Fauci did say it... so here you are.
On Wednesday, the NIH sent a letter to members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce that acknowledged two facts. One was that EcoHealth Alliance, a New York City–based nonprofit that partners with far-flung laboratories to research and prevent the outbreak of emerging diseases, did indeed enhance a bat coronavirus to become potentially more infectious to humans, which the NIH letter described as an “unexpected result” of the research it funded that was carried out in partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The NIH based these disclosures on a research progress report that EcoHealth Alliance sent to the agency in August, roughly two years after it was supposed to. An NIH spokesperson told Vanity Fair that Dr. Fauci was “entirely truthful in his statements to Congress,” and that he did not have the progress report that detailed the controversial research at the time he testified in July. But EcoHealth Alliance appeared to contradict that claim, and said in a statement: “These data were reported as soon as we were made aware, in our year four report in April 2018.”
Covid conspiracy freaks are getting dumber and dumber
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