Arabs before Islam: video.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Gotta wonder why Allah was OK with people burying their daughters alive for so long.

Boru

Because life is a test ground for humans. You take the freedom to do anything from eating pork to robbing caravans to working as a thug to working as a saint.

In judgement day you get trialed for what you did in the test; if you pass you go to paradise; if you fail you go to hell permanently.

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But you implied that the pre-Islam Arabs were bad for burying their daughters alive (a sentiment with which I agree). What I’m wondering is why Allah didn’t reveal the Quran earlier. He had to know know that burying girls alive was a wrong thing, so why did he just sit back and allow it to continue for more than six millennia?

Boru

[WinterHold]

Because life is a test ground for humans. You take the freedom to do anything from eating pork to robbing caravans to working as a thug to working as a saint.

In judgement day you get trialed for what you did in the test; if you pass you go to paradise; if you fail you go to hell permanently.

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(Snipped the bits not relevant to this reply.)

But you implied that the pre-Islam Arabs were bad for burying their daughters alive (a sentiment with which I agree). What I’m wondering is why Allah didn’t reveal the Quran earlier. He had to know know that burying girls alive was a wrong thing, so why did he just sit back and allow it to continue for more than six millennia?

Boru

Because that's how a real test is like if your tester is neither playing games with you nor joking around with you.
Didn't the nomads of Arabia know that burying little girls is wrong? didn't they cry when they saw it? 

Just like the Quran says about humanity:

Sura 90, The Quran:
https://quran.com/90:11?font=v1&translations=131%2C20

(4) Indeed, We have created humankind in ˹constant˺ struggle.
(5) Do they think that no one has power over them,
(6) boasting, “I have wasted enormous wealth!”?
(7) Do they think that no one sees them?
(8) Have We not given them two eyes,
(9) a tongue, and two lips;
(10) and shown them the two ways ˹of right and wrong˺?
(11) If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺!
(12) And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is?
(13) It is to free a slave,
(14) Or feeding on a day of severe hunger
(15) to an orphaned relative
(16) or to a poor person in distress,
(17) And then being among those who believed and advised one another to patience and advised one another to compassion.

Ancient Arabs didn't have the Quran, but they had eyes, tongues, lips, they had brains to recognize what is right and what is wrong.
Humans are the ones who banned charities.

God is not our babysitter. God has mercy by sending revelations like the Quran and the bible before Rome destroy it.

Everything is meant to be; the test is meant to be like this; we already have brains, emotions, tongues, ears, eyes.

[Angrboda]

Just out of curiosity, I looked up an article on Islamic contributions to the world.  A CNN article listed 10 such contributions, but out of the 10, only the music and coffee could be claimed to have their origin in the Arabian peninsula.  All the other "achievements" were a result of Muslim thugs subjugating other peoples.

Islamism is a parasite and has been, apparently, throughout even its highest points.

What about "Romanism" or should I say "Gog and Magogism" ?
The west and Christianity are the worst invaders in history; they even butchered all Native Americans and took their women as slaves !

Eaters of the world and their allies should never throw rocks at others.

Your whataboutism is noted for being the vapid non-answer that it is. So you've once again derailed a thread to engage in your hatemongering because that's all you know.

[The Architect Of Fate]

What about "Romanism" or should I say "Gog and Magogism" ?

Islam invaded places too

The west and Christianity are the worst invaders in history; they even butchered all Native Americans and took their women as slaves !

All the native Americans? Speaking as a Native American i can assure you there are plenty of us still around and as bad as western colonialism I would take it over Islamic domination any day. Also, Muslims took female slaves from conquered lands. So shut up hypocrite.

Eaters of the world and their allies should never throw rocks at others.

Take this advice yourself, hypocrite 

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Because life is a test ground for humans. You take the freedom to do anything from eating pork to robbing caravans to working as a thug to working as a saint.

In judgement day you get trialed for what you did in the test; if you pass you go to paradise; if you fail you go to hell permanently.

I love how you think this makes your religion look good. When it does the opposite 

[Brian37]

Gotta wonder why Allah was OK with people burying their daughters alive for so long.

Boru

Because life is a test ground for humans. You take the freedom to do anything from eating pork to robbing caravans to working as a thug to working as a saint.

In judgement day you get trialed for what you did in the test; if you pass you go to paradise; if you fail you go to hell permanently.

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Video about the 'improvement' of the treatment of women thanks to Islam brought you you by 'Manscaped'?  Seriously.  Classy is maybe not the adjective I'd use to describe this specific piece of spin.

The channel gets lots of sponsors; for example Magellantv.

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I'll hold out for the Arabs after Islam video.

It was already aired by the channel:

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Um wha?

Islam nor Arabs, or any race or religion for that matter own a patent on human morality. There is not one period of human history, in our species history where any one label, any one race, any one nation created worldwide peace. 

There are literally videos of women being buried in the dirt up to the head, where stones are thrown at her until she dies. There is a video of a guy, considered a traitor, enclosed in a cage, doused in petrol and set on fire. 

As much as I hate our religious right wing in America, the west, still by far, is far more open and pluralistic than that of which you stupidly try to defend.

Life is never meant to be a "peaceful ride"; even the Animal Kingdom has battles; ever saw a Hyena pack waging war on a pack of Lionesses?





Fighting is a law of life. It will exist no matter what you do; but we can regulate that behavior and control the battles we decide to take unlike "Animals".

Humans used different philosophies to regulate combat; the philosophies varied from religious branches to atheistic branches -like Secular law-. Most made humanity go extinct in pointless wars (like WW2 and WW1), killing hundreds of Millions of people. A failure that made the advocates of that law worse than animals. Their massacres still divide nations until today.

Anyways; we must fight Brian. Even when other humans are not around; viruses and disease wages war against us !
So there is no peace in this life, this life is a test from the same being that created us and this universe we live in.

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Just out of curiosity, I looked up an article on Islamic contributions to the world.  A CNN article listed 10 such contributions, but out of the 10, only the music and coffee could be claimed to have their origin in the Arabian peninsula.  All the other "achievements" were a result of Muslim thugs subjugating other peoples.

Islamism is a parasite and has been, apparently, throughout even its highest points.

What about "Romanism" or should I say "Gog and Magogism" ?
The west and Christianity are the worst invaders in history; they even butchered all Native Americans and took their women as slaves !

Eaters of the world and their allies should never throw rocks at others.

Competition in life will always exist, even in humans. But that does not mean in any context humans always have to default to violence or oppression.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Oh, and the Islamic Golden Age was a blip and most of it was simply stolen from other cultures or was just re-hatching old ideas. The was almost nothing unique or new in this so-called golden age and it collapsed rapidly and gave way to your religion's true center of Ignorance, Opression, and Barbarity, and Backwardness.

[WinterHold]

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Humans used different philosophies to regulate combat; the philosophies varied from religious branches to atheistic branches -like Secular law-. Most made humanity go extinct in pointless wars (like WW2 and WW1), killing hundreds of Millions of people. A failure that made the advocates of that law worse than animals. Their massacres still divide nations until today.

Competition in life will always exist, even in humans. But that does not mean in any context humans always have to default to violence or oppression.

Fighting is not competition. When a police officer shoots a gangster it is not competition.
When America butchers Afghanies for 20 years straight it is not competition.
When ISIS blows civilians it is not competition.


It's a regulation of combat: "if you bomb me for bombing you first; I will butcher your people for 20 years straight"-American Foreign Policy.

[Brian37]

Oh, and the Islamic Golden Age was a blip and most of it was simply stolen from other cultures or was just re-hatching old ideas. The was almost nothing unique or new in this so-called golden age and it collapsed rapidly and gave way to your religion's true center of Ignorance, Opression, and Barbarity, and Backwardness.

To be fair Atlass, there is no such thing as an original religion. Even Jews/Hebrews created their religion based on Canaanite polytheism. And it is no accident even with Buddhism, that it shares motifs with Hinduism.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Oh and the west contributed more to civilization in 100 years than Islam done in 1000

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When America LIBERATES  Afghanis from being slaughtered by the Taliban thugs for 20 years straight it is not competition.

There fixed that statement

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Moderator Notice
If this thread could get back on topic (pre-Islamic Arabs), that’d be great.

Boru