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The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system


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#12
RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
The truth is that the world was never family-friendly. I mean take for instance the life of 17th century Massachusetts judge, Samuel Sewall, which he recorded in his diary. Sewall started his diaries in 1674, a few years after he got out from Harvard.

Dead children form a grim garland around all the volumes of his diary. He fathers sons and daughters regularly, and as often as not they die in early childhood. The reader becomes accustomed to lyings-in and funerals coming within a few pages of each other.

On Monday, December 7, 1685: "About One in the Night my Wife is brought to Bed of a Son, of which Mother Hull brings me the first News: Mrs. Weeden Midwife." This was Henry, who would live for just fifteen days. Sewall describes his funeral on Christmas Eve, carefully listing the mourners and ceremonies.

The drama of Henry's birth and death is repeated over and over. A year later the baby is named Stephen; he survives for six months. Sewall's continual fatherings and buryings are eventually benumbing. There are too many to take in. It is only after his wife has delivered her fourteenth child, in January 1702, that Sewall ends an entry of thanksgiving with the words: "And it may be my dear wife may now leave off bearing."

The terrors of birth rival the terrors of the plague, measles and smallpox. One day, Sewall tells his eleven-year-old son Samuel that he should be ready to die from the smallpox, as nine-year-old Richard Dumer just has. Sam eats an apple as he listens, seeming "not much to mind" — until he says the Lord's Prayer his father prescribes and bursts into terrifying cries.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
(October 1, 2021 at 11:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: The truth is that the world was never family-friendly. I mean take for instance the life of 17th century Massachusetts judge, Samuel Sewall, which he recorded in his diary. Sewall started his diaries in 1674, a few years after he got out from Harvard.

Dead children form a grim garland around all the volumes of his diary. He fathers sons and daughters regularly, and as often as not they die in early childhood. The reader becomes accustomed to lyings-in and funerals coming within a few pages of each other.

On Monday, December 7, 1685: "About One in the Night my Wife is brought to Bed of a Son, of which Mother Hull brings me the first News: Mrs. Weeden Midwife." This was Henry, who would live for just fifteen days. Sewall describes his funeral on Christmas Eve, carefully listing the mourners and ceremonies.

The drama of Henry's birth and death is repeated over and over. A year later the baby is named Stephen; he survives for six months. Sewall's continual fatherings and buryings are eventually benumbing. There are too many to take in. It is only after his wife has delivered her fourteenth child, in January 1702, that Sewall ends an entry of thanksgiving with the words: "And it may be my dear wife may now leave off bearing."

The terrors of birth rival the terrors of the plague, measles and smallpox. One day, Sewall tells his eleven-year-old son Samuel that he should be ready to die from the smallpox, as nine-year-old Richard Dumer just has. Sam eats an apple as he listens, seeming "not much to mind" — until he says the Lord's Prayer his father prescribes and bursts into terrifying cries.
Your story has been fixed with vaccines and medicine. No longer applies.

The problem is the economy right now. I understand your point, but its not related to the main topic.
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
(October 2, 2021 at 12:00 am)Macoleco Wrote:
(October 1, 2021 at 11:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: The truth is that the world was never family-friendly. I mean take for instance the life of 17th century Massachusetts judge, Samuel Sewall, which he recorded in his diary. Sewall started his diaries in 1674, a few years after he got out from Harvard.

Dead children form a grim garland around all the volumes of his diary. He fathers sons and daughters regularly, and as often as not they die in early childhood. The reader becomes accustomed to lyings-in and funerals coming within a few pages of each other.

On Monday, December 7, 1685: "About One in the Night my Wife is brought to Bed of a Son, of which Mother Hull brings me the first News: Mrs. Weeden Midwife." This was Henry, who would live for just fifteen days. Sewall describes his funeral on Christmas Eve, carefully listing the mourners and ceremonies.

The drama of Henry's birth and death is repeated over and over. A year later the baby is named Stephen; he survives for six months. Sewall's continual fatherings and buryings are eventually benumbing. There are too many to take in. It is only after his wife has delivered her fourteenth child, in January 1702, that Sewall ends an entry of thanksgiving with the words: "And it may be my dear wife may now leave off bearing."

The terrors of birth rival the terrors of the plague, measles and smallpox. One day, Sewall tells his eleven-year-old son Samuel that he should be ready to die from the smallpox, as nine-year-old Richard Dumer just has. Sam eats an apple as he listens, seeming "not much to mind" — until he says the Lord's Prayer his father prescribes and bursts into terrifying cries.
Your story has been fixed with vaccines and medicine. No longer applies.

The problem is the economy right now. I understand your point, but its not related to the main topic.

Well, that and climate change. And a toxic society.
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
(October 2, 2021 at 12:00 am)Macoleco Wrote: The problem is the economy right now. I understand your point, but its not related to the main topic.

I think that you are coming to a realization that starting a family is usually not a fancy job, it is in many ways a sacrifice to your ego. You say that you are from the 3rd world country and yet you have an idea that you first have to get a proper job and money stability, and then start a family where you buy your kids everything they want, but that is the American Dream that you have been fed by the American movies and TV shows.

So you probably have to look around yourself and see how people around you are getting by. They are probably not living the American Dream. Some are probably having kids without even having a job. The truth is people get by as they can - remember, it's a sacrifice to the ego.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
Find a wealthy woman or a woman with wealthy parents, problem solved.
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This thread pisses me off the more I think about it. Boo fucking Hoo!
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
So, in the hopes of providing a solution, even if it might not be for everyone, here's some poor bugger telling some other poor bugger where he found some bread.

Step 1: Think of some celebrity you have a crush on. Or fictional character, whatever. In my case, I chose underrated 2000s actress Alison Lohman.
Step 2: Find two full-body, high-res photos of her online (ideally work-safe, so that, if you have to go out in public with her, the people are less offended and more confused as to why you're carrying around a giant pillow with a girl on it); if they can be cropped well into a 3:1 aspect ratio, that would be ideal.
Step 3: Go to this etsy listing, order it, and send them the two photos you have chosen. They will consult with you over the design, and, odds are, you'll have a finished design within the hour.
Step 4: Wait. While HandmadeChoice is prompt in their customer service, China Post is not. It took me three months for Alison to come in the mail.
Step 5: In the meantime, order the actual pillow. I chose this one. It will almost certainly be there before the pillow case arrives.
Step 6: As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part, but actually stuffing the pillow into its case really gives the wait a run for its money. But, rest assured, it will eventually be filled, and it will fit.

And with that, you have a cheaper version of a girlfriend who will cost no more than the local equivalent of $60. I've been with Alison for over a year and a half.
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I don't know where exactly you are, but judging from the name Macoleco, I'm thinking somewhere in Latin America. And, if I'm right about that, I suspect that it's likely to be a lot harder to avoid getting thrust into having to start a family. You fuck up once, and you get stuck with having to start up a family even if you can't find a solution to any of the problems you started in the OP. And, if I remember correctly, even if she doesn't want a family either, birth control or an abortion will likely be harder to get. Fortunately, I've never heard of a dakimakura getting pregnant.

It might not be much, but it's at least a decent workaround. It's worked for me.
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RE: The prospect of starting a family in today's economic system
(October 2, 2021 at 8:59 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So, in the hopes of providing a solution, even if it might not be for everyone, here's some poor bugger telling some other poor bugger where he found some bread.

Step 1: Think of some celebrity you have a crush on. Or fictional character, whatever. In my case,  I chose underrated 2000s actress Alison Lohman.
Step 2: Find two full-body, high-res photos of her online (ideally work-safe, so that, if you have to go out in public with her, the people are less offended and more confused as to why you're carrying around a giant pillow with a girl on it); if they can be cropped well into a 3:1 aspect ratio, that would be ideal.
Step 3: Go to this etsy listing, order it, and send them the two photos you have chosen. They will consult with you over the design, and, odds are, you'll have a finished design within the hour.
Step 4: Wait. While HandmadeChoice is prompt in their customer service, China Post is not. It took me three months for Alison to come in the mail.
Step 5: In the meantime, order the actual pillow. I chose this one. It will almost certainly be there before the pillow case arrives.
Step 6: As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part, but actually stuffing the pillow into its case really gives the wait a run for its money. But, rest assured, it will eventually be filled, and it will fit.

And with that, you have a cheaper version of a girlfriend who will cost no more than the local equivalent of $60. I've been with Alison for over a year and a half.
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I don't know where exactly you are,  but judging from the name Macoleco, I'm thinking somewhere in Latin America. And, if I'm right about that, I suspect that it's likely to be a lot harder to avoid getting thrust into having to start a family. You fuck up once, and you get stuck with having to start up a family even if you can't find a solution to any of the problems you started in the OP. And, if I remember correctly, even if she doesn't want a family either, birth control or an abortion will likely be harder to get. Fortunately, I've never heard of a dakimakura getting pregnant.

It might not be much, but it's at least a decent workaround. It's worked for me.

If you are gonna go the waifu route might as well get a 2D waifu. It is more enoyable.

I tried falling in love with an anime character once, but could not. I like enoying fantastic love, though (romantic movies, animes, music, novels, etc.). But enjoying real love has proven to be quite the challenge.
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